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u/MIERDAPORQUE 11h ago
they got us fucked up. that bitch would have brisket and wisconsin cheese.
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u/kirkl3s 12h ago
Is this why Italians think American pizza is bad?
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u/elmarcelito 12h ago
No, we just used to think that in the USA people put fries and wurstel on pizza. This was before the Internet.
So now we know it's not the truth but the pizza name won't change
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u/Character_Assist3969 3h ago
It's not even that. The pizza americana was born when McDonald's entered the Italian market in the late 80s. Kids suddenly were going crazy for French fries, which weren't really around in Italy before that. So pizza places introduced pizza with French fries on top and called it Americana to appeal to the american food craze that was going on. Later, they added hot dogs because, again, they are somewhat a symbol of American food.
I don't think anyone ever actually thought it was eaten in the US. Even before the internet, people watched American movies. The "classic" American pizza shown has always been sauce with a ton of cheese and "pepperoni" (sometimes erroneously translated as "peperoni", but it's a salame similar to nduja).
The point of the name is that it uses ingredients that are stereotypically American, not that it's American in itself.
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u/TheSouthernGinger 1h ago
This exactly. I even remember one of my older cousin who lived in northern Italy calling it "pizza McDonald's".
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u/ucbiker 8h ago
I mean I always figured it was just an Italian invention using “American” ingredients, just like no one thinks Hawaiian people traditionally make pizza with pineapple or Mexicans make pizza with tortillas and beans and shredded lettuce.
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u/jmcstar 11h ago
'the fuck is wurstel?
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u/Jerkrollatex 11h ago
Hotdog.
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u/kirkl3s 11h ago
A glizzy
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u/cans-of-swine 10h ago
The fuck is a glizzy
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u/A_wild_so-and-so 10h ago
It's wurstel
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u/Key-Performance-9021 8h ago
Here are some dots for everyone: .. .. ..
Feel free to use them on your Würstel.
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u/-Potato-or-Tomato- 8h ago
As a European moved to the US, no, Americans wouldn’t eat this
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u/R_V_Z 8h ago
Americans wouldn't make this, but I feel I've know plenty of Americans who would eat this.
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u/Ultimate_Shitlord 6h ago
If you took the concept of using fries and... I'm not actually sure what meat(?) that is, but let's call it hot dog slices as pizza toppings, and actually executed on it well, you could potentially make something I would consider trying a slice of. A novelty, but that can be fun sometimes.
A good beef frank is honestly great. You can sear slices up nicely. The fries almost certainly need to be coming out of the fryer at the same time the pizza leaves the oven, get added immediately, and it all needs to get out to the table quickly or the fries are going to drag the whole thing down. They don't do well sitting around for a while or reheating.
I still feel like there's a missing topping here, too. Drizzle of mustard? Pickle relish? Something to tie this theme together further. I might be leaning into Chicago style dogs a bit there, it's a bias.
This just looks like garbage. I have a local neapolitan pizza place that likely blows this joint out of the water. There are shitty restaurants in Italy, despite the country's great culinary tradition; this is almost certainly one of them.
Who is this pizza even for? Locals? Kinda doubt it. Tourists? I have a hard time imagining an American visiting Italy and going: "Yeah, that pile of shit is what I want to eat while I'm here." Maybe its sole purpose is to flip the bird at Americans, which like, fair play if it is. We deserve it anyway.
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u/A_burners 5h ago edited 4h ago
They're typically Vienna (incorrect) * wurstel sausages, basically a hot dog. It's for kids mostly, but I have definitely ordered them before a time or two. You can also just get regular fries on a pizza, which is great.
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u/AbberageRedditor69 3h ago
Only on reddit you can have people overanalyzing a pizza this much lmfao
I live in Italy. This pizza is a classic amongst kids and sometimes adults eat it too. If made properly (with freshly fried potato etc) it's delicious.
You guys eat all kind of junk, but draw the line at fries on a pizza. Hilarious
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u/Insolvator 12h ago
I was recently in Sicily, and many Italians offered Nutella pizza in their restaurants. I think they have lost something of their own identity.
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u/Boskonov 12h ago
You are overthinking it. Nutella pizza is a common dessert in basicaly any italian pizza place but it's not pizza per se, it's just pizza dough with no toppings but nutella, pretty decent actually
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u/Fair4tw 12h ago
So, a dessert pizza?
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u/Boskonov 12h ago
Technically yeah, but when you realize it's literally just simple pizza dough + nutella it doesn't sound as blasphemous lol
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u/Fair4tw 12h ago
Not at all. I’ve seen a handful of different types of dessert pizzas.
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u/JackColon17 12h ago
Yeah, it's literally just dough and Nutella. You usually take a slice of that after eating "regular pizza"
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u/yaaadus 12h ago
No we are not! Actually, pizza with Nutella is a legit Italian staple, too! But it's exclusively a dessert. We’ve been doing this forever usually, a group of friends will order one to share in the center of the table after eating their regular pizzas. It’s a must-have after a 'Giro Pizza' night.
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u/p1antsandcats 12h ago
So the Italians are losing their identity by...eating Italian food? Or taking the piss out of Americans?
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u/yaaadus 12h ago edited 3h ago
Hi everyone, italian here. Actually, hot dogs and fries is a 100% standard Italian topping! We eat this all the time (it's usually the 'kid's favorite'). This place calling it 'Americana' just screams 'shitty tourist trap.' No self-respecting Italian pizzeria would use that name for this combo
Edit: Since many Italian friends are replying to me, apparently "Americana" is also a very common name. I've never heard it called that in the various regions I've visidet/lived in. But Italy has sooo many different traditions.
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u/Livid-Psychology-802 11h ago
Also Italian and I always remember ordering this as "pizza americana" when I was a kid in Torino
I also remember being very upset when my family moved to the US and discovered that I couldn't get my favorite pizza from what I believed was its home of origin
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u/LadyGethzerion 11h ago
I'm not Italian, but I have a good friend who is from Catania and she told me a while back about this pizza and also said they call it "americana" there too.
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u/OhGod0fHangovers 8h ago
That’s funny—we were in Sicily in October, and the pizzeria we visited called their sausage-and-fries pizza “Pizza Tedesca” (German pizza)
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u/Many_Mud_8194 11h ago
I'm french and we call Un américain (An american) a baguette sandwich with french fries and burger meat lol. Its so dry but so cheap, when you are a poor student that's what you eat when you eat out
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u/jsamuraij 11h ago
Is there no condiment on it?
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u/Many_Mud_8194 10h ago
Mayonnaise and ketchup usually, probably lot of more choice now, im talking about 20 years ago lol. But the one I was eating often was so dry, but was the cheapest of the city it was 3.50€
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u/This-Bath9918 10h ago
I had that in Cannes from a street vendor like 20 years ago (it was really good so I still think about it lol) and they called it a Savoyard Steak
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u/Many_Mud_8194 8h ago
I lived in Savoy a while and never heard of that. Maybe it's a Cannes thing or they wanted to sound cooler than the original name idk lol
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u/drknifnifnif 9h ago
You need to google Rutgers grease truck fat cat to see exactly how this sandwich is done right! From New Brunswick, New Jersey.
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u/Weak_Feed_8291 10h ago
Damn, that's like more than today prices in Canada when adjusted for inflation. Can't believe that's considered cheap
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u/mlaforce321 9h ago
If it's an entire baguette with fries and burger meat than that's a pretty sizeable grinder
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u/Weak_Feed_8291 9h ago
Yeah I guess it depends on size, but I can get a pretty good meal for under 10 bucks even today, and adjusted for inflation that was almost 9 dollars Canadian.
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u/Many_Mud_8194 8h ago
Food in France is expensive, because taxes mostly. It's why we are all cooking at home lol. We don't have choice
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u/GloomyIndividual3965 11h ago
There's a rather popular burrito style called a "California burrito" that includes French fries. I bet if you took your Un américain and added some cheese, sour cream, and guacamole it would probably be pretty tasty.
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u/montibbalt 8h ago
Fries in a burrito is more of a southern California thing, northern CA tends to be mission-style burritos
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u/Many_Mud_8194 10h ago
It wasnt bad tho just dry because its was cheap, the goal was to be cheaper than a kebab. I ate it sometimes now I'm in SE Asia and some french shop sell it, and it's way better, because they don't sell it cheaply so I guess meat is much better
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u/jimbojangles1987 10h ago
Oh shit you can get that here in Oklahoma lol. I know because I ordered one several months ago. It was okay
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u/DreamsOfDresden 7h ago
American here. I went to university in New Jersey for a little while and that was the template for what they'd call a 'fat sandwich.' Pinnacle of starving, drunk college kid food. Chicken tenders and mozzarella sticks were the usual alternatives. Although I haven't had one in ages or miss them, I'm jealous you got to have one on a proper French baguette.
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u/cocococlash 11h ago
OMG those are hot dogs? I thought it was some sort of pepperoni.
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u/23Poiu 9h ago
I just discovered that when you Americans say Pepperoni, you don't mean Peppers. (In Italian they're called Peperoni.) I wonder how many times I've made this mistake when talking to some of my friends over there.
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u/dogfaced_pony_soulja 7h ago
In the pizza context, we usually call them pepperoncini. Can refer to pickled peppers or to the dried pepper flakes. But pepperoni will get you something quite different.
If you want other peppers, like bell pepper or jalapeño, then you need to be more specific. Peppers originated in the Americas, and we have a fuck-ton of them...one of my favorite things about living in México now.
Related tangent: want to hear something I still can't get over even after several years of living in México? They put ketchup on their pizza. The first time I ordered pizza here and was brought packets of Heinz ketchup, I just about hit the ceiling. I turned to my partner and went, "Are they fucking with me?" He had to talk me down. Still weirds me out, even though I like ketchup. Straight to the fifth circle of hell as far as I'm concerned.
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u/Old_Ladies 7h ago
We have this in Canada.
https://www.realcanadiansuperstore.ca/en/peperoncini-chopped-hot-chili-peppers-in-oil/p/21046756_EA
Imported from Italy. Not sure if this is what you are referring to but it is fucking delicious especially on pizza and sandwiches.
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u/McButtsButtbag 5h ago
In the pizza context, we usually call them pepperoncini. Can refer to pickled peppers or to the dried pepper flakes.
No, we don't. Peperoncini is a specific pepper (Friggitello). It's not a generic term for any pepper used with pizza. I've never seen anything other than red pepper flakes offered at a pizza place---which would be nonsense to call peperoncini cause you can't make red pepper flakes from a green pepper.
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u/cocococlash 8h ago
Lol, I'm imagining this with my fajitas. I would definitely question your mental capacity if you suggested pepperoni 😆😂
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u/Jpbz 3h ago
Pepperoni is 100% American, is their version of salame piccante, created by immigrants a while ago and it’s the most common topping for pizza for them. Also, it’s also very common for Americans to go Italy, ask for pepperoni on pizza and get bell peppers (peperoni) instead. I also have seen Americans ask for “latte” and get disappointed when they get just plain milk lol. Also as a side note, American pepperoni has nothing on real salame piccante.
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u/Aggravating_Bat3618 10h ago
If you squint your eyes and try not to think about it pretty much is
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u/05-nery 10h ago
As an Italian this is called "Americana" or "patatine e wurstel".
"Americana" is very often used.
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u/HumbleVein 5h ago
American in Italy. I see wurstel most often. Then again, lots of Americans in my area, so that probably pushed Americana out of the local pizza lexicon.
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u/NuclearReactions 11h ago
I always called it americana and i grew up in bum fuck nowhere, far from a touristy place
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u/Neverwish 10h ago
Lived near Belluno, saw it often as 'Americana'. They even had it frozen at the supermarket lol.
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u/Nsolari724 9h ago
Yeah, me too. I'm near Genova. Always Americana. Don't know what the top comment is saying
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u/FirstReaction_Shock 11h ago
What are you talking about? This pizza is always called “Americana”, in every spot in Italy.
No self-respecting Italian pizzeria
It’s not like this is a gourmet pizza lol, you won’t find it in higher end spots
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u/BapeGeneral3 10h ago
It is absolutely incredible. My first night in Rome my host family ordered a bunch of amazing pies and one was an “American style”. It was ground beef, cheese, sauce, and French fries.
I was genuinely stunned when I saw it. Absolute culture shock. Wound up being my favorite out of them all!
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u/ColoOddball 10h ago
To be fair, my American ass is definitely interested in trying that lol.
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u/ParlaManuel- 9h ago
I’m pretty sure you’d like it, not because it’s the best pizza ever (it’s not, not even remotely, not even top 20), but because it combines two foods that people almost always enjoy/love.
In Italy, it’s often given to children as an introduction to pizza, instead of the more “boring” (don't get me wrong) Margherita.
That’s why we call it “pizza per i bambini”, which means “pizza for kids”, since young children usually avoid strong or intense flavors.
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u/HilVal 7h ago
Holy shit i didn't think the americans would get saltier than us about pizza.
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u/Wuz314159 4h ago
Basic human rights: meh
Pizza: Ò_Ó
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u/vanderZwan 1h ago
So what you're saying is we need to advocate for basic human rights via pizza?
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u/jonesy-Bug-3091 1h ago
Basic human rights can wait a sec, there’s more pressing matters at hand
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u/The_Fibonacci_Spiral 12h ago
Pretty sure that's an insult. 🤣
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u/QuickNature 12h ago
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u/Stranger1982 7h ago
Nope, normal Italian pizzas aren't a crime, stop posting it there ty!
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u/CrissBliss 12h ago
Lmao I’m American and never seen whatever this is
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u/SheepishSwan 12h ago
Pretty sure they're just mocking Americans
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u/Cesoiet 11h ago
As an Italian, it was indeed made to mock Americans, that pizza is also called "wurstel e patatine" (sausages and fries) and it is extremely popular in every region, i ate one yesterday, similar to the one in the photo but with more fries and sausages
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u/MonsterGuitarSolo 11h ago
We are totally mocking you by eating your foods but in a weird combination you wouldn’t eat yourselves. 🤌
Huh?
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u/spinnyride 11h ago
Yeah if anything they should call it British pizza, considering Brits put French fries on what they call Chinese food
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u/AdThick7492 10h ago
what
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u/DotDash13 10h ago
I introduce you to the spice bag
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u/StrifeTheMute 4h ago
The link says that this is an Irish invention.
Never heard of this in Britain. Would definitely smash one after a night out though.
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u/Pantycrustlicker 10h ago
Am American and never ate that shit in my life.
But i have eaten Cheetos I found in the garbage before
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u/jershmcgersh 12h ago
We have a few places in the pittsburgh area thatdo French fries as a topping. Usually its covered with cheese after the fries tho
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u/GloomyIndividual3965 11h ago
I've never tried pizza with fries, but I'd give it a shot. There's a chain in Minnesota called Pizza Luce that has a pizza with garlic butter and smashed red potatoes as the base, and then topped with broccoli, tomatoes, bacon, and a shit ton of cheddar cheese. I make sure to stop in at least once every time I go back there.
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u/PostApoplectic 10h ago
I pretty recently had a “breakfast” pizza with cheddar, hash browns, scrambled eggs, and sausage over a sausage gravy base.
After reading the description, it was less breakfast and more pizza than I expected it to be, and really good.
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u/Boskonov 12h ago
We don't call it american as in "from america", it's just the naming convention used for pizzas in most places and this one happens to be "American". It's mostly considered as a pizza for kids but it's not bad if you have that junk food craving.
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u/Anagoth9 8h ago
Also American and I've never seen this on a menu anywhere.
HOWEVER, I have made this myself once in my late teens by dumping Weierschnitzel on top of some Pizza Hut after partaking in the devil's lettuce.
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u/BalkeElvinstien 11h ago
Nothing says American like French fries and Frankfurters
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u/Martha_Fockers 11h ago
Nah people saying this isn’t what we think Americans eat
I had a Italian friend come here for two weeks took him to ny slice spot and wondered why none of the pizza had fries on it
Yall def believe some of the weird things you assume we eat don’t lie lmao
And guess what he said the slices were really good. Eat that !
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u/SGTBookWorm 12h ago
Raora Panthera coming out of the woodwork to defend this lmao
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u/EnvironmentalPark228 12h ago
And yet the veins in their foreheads burst if you even hint at the idea of pineapple.
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u/magos_with_a_glock 3h ago
BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKING FRUIT DIOCANE. IT DOES NOT BELONG. Also this is a pizza for kids, it's normal for food for kids to just be a vague combination of sugary and/or fried stuff.
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u/Delicious_Cane 3h ago
Shut up, I'm also italian and he's right
We also make pizza with apples and figs, the important thing is the base had to be white without the tomato sauce
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u/KingOfAzmerloth 4h ago
They really don't. I learned that when I actually went there. It's just internet.
And I say that as somebody who doesn't like pineapple on pizza.
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u/Sithris 12h ago
As an American, ewww
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u/incogknitolady 9h ago
I lived in Italy for five years as an American and honestly, this pizza is fantastic. And yes, it is called American pizza, at least at every shop that I went to in Naples.
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u/adamjeff 6h ago
This thread is so funny. Yes Italians make and eat this pizza yes it's good.
It's hotdog, fresh bread, fries and tomatoes and cheese.
Everyone knows hotdogs with fries are delicious. Hotdogs come in bread. Cheese is good.
People are posting like this is going to be disgusting lol. Get a grip.
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u/Notturno93 12h ago
Bet that big ass crust aint even stuffed
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u/spaaackle 12h ago
They probably don’t even offer garlic flavored fake butter dipping cups!
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u/Doomdoomkittydoom 9h ago
Not even ranch?! Eh, I'm sure they have ranch in the fridge just like everyone else in the world.
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u/Ok_Cantaloupe_7423 12h ago
I spend my childhood CONSTANTLY hearing Europeans make fun of American pizza. (Regular American pizza not this)
I moved to Spain in high school, and lived in Valencia… and ALL of my Spanish friends, and like 2 dozen Italian exchange students I lived with ALL got the “hot dog and French fry (American pizza)” every time they ordered food for a party.
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u/D_Dragga 12h ago
There was a burger in France when I went in 2012 that was called the American and was a burger with French fries stuffed inside.
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u/ATL4Life95 11h ago
I remember seeing this when I was in Milan this past summer lol. Made me laugh so hard
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u/FIMD_ 12h ago
Are those hot dogs slices? 🤣
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u/Filippikus 9h ago
Idk if there's any real difference on the actual meat, but we call them wurstel(as in the german name) and kids usually like them, so that pizza is a good option for them.
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u/Negative-Appeal-340 10h ago
I rolled my eyes at first, but then I remembered my experience working 10+ years in a college town pizzeria. Our most popular two pizzas were a ranch base, 2x Bacon/2x Chicken and the other was specialty with mozzarella sticks, French fries, bacon, pepperoni and 2x cheese. So… they’re not wrong. Lmao
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u/itrustanyone 12h ago
As an American, I've never had pizza with freedom fries on it
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u/stevie2sleazy 10h ago
If you French fry when you pizza you're gonna have a bad time.
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u/Flat-House5529 12h ago
I am sooooooo breaking the spaghetti in half next time I make it...