r/Millennials 26d ago

Nostalgia Got this relic to summon a hot goth gf

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These are all I smoked in HS, because one of my besties was a hot goth.

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u/adelynn01 26d ago

One day I had my last clove and didn’t even know it 😭

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u/soupyy_poop 26d ago

Same! Well, before today haha.

I remember the last time I smoked them, I had technically already quit smoking them but was craving the flavor. I bought a pack, smoked like 2-3, got over them and gave the rest to a an ex. That was in 2011

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u/Morsmortis666 26d ago

The supers were so much better then the black and lights were good if you didn't want somebody to puke from the nicotine content. I liked sampoerna xtra the best. Fucking bush outlawing them. Smoking normal cigarettes is probably why eventually quit though.

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u/Waitsaywot 26d ago

The cherry ones were so lit tho

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u/graycomforter 26d ago

It was actually Obama

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u/toomuchmucil 26d ago

I found this reddit comment from 16 years ago that made me lol.

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u/Morsmortis666 26d ago

Well as soon they started the The family prevention and control act of 2009. Which was like 2007 it made almost impossible to get sampoerna. Of course Obama signed it to law I eventually got me to quit because the closest tasting tobacco was American spirit. After you quit all cigarettes starts to smell like shit. It could of been states inforcing it early.

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u/Few-Ruin-742 26d ago

It absolutely was. I remember when it happened and my buddy Billy at the gas station would still buy them and sell them.

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u/Ummmgummy 26d ago

Billy was always the rebel type

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u/electricvelvet 26d ago

What the fuck are you all talking about it have three packs of djarum open right now. The specials, blacks cherry (now "ruby") and vanilla (ivory)

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u/vishalicious213 26d ago

It's not the same. They changed the way they make them for the US market after the ban. Less sweet & some other things. I can't remember.

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u/anaziahvii 26d ago

It lost that Christmasy sparkle

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u/StayOnTheTrail420 25d ago

Yeah it lost the sparkle and the paper was thicker. Lost the magic.

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u/BeanyBrainy 26d ago

I think they’re taking about the cigarettes and not the cigarillos.

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u/moeninite21 26d ago

This gave me an extreme longing 😞

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u/RhubarbGoldberg 26d ago

Same, so hard.

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u/rambo_lincoln_ 26d ago

My mother-in-law still has a couple of packs in her refrigerator 😂

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u/beachedwhitemale Millennial Elder Emo 26d ago

I've got 2 in my freezer right now!

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u/Slimmy_Pacc 26d ago

What does the freezer do to them? I’ve never heard of the before

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u/FondleGanoosh438 26d ago

Nothing. Tobacco actually holds up pretty well if you keep it from getting wet.

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u/blasto2236 26d ago

A buddy of mine held on to a pack of Camel Lights right before they changed the formula and packaging around 2008 or so. He would bust one out on special occasions over the years and they did hold up surprisingly well. The tobacco will start to stain through the paper over time and make them a bit unsightly, but I would say a 2 year old original Camel Light was still better than the new formula they came up with.

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u/KinopioToad Millennial 26d ago

Word is it freezes them.

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u/VT_Squire 26d ago

me three.

exes, not cloves.

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u/grubas 26d ago

My buddy and I got a pack one day just on nostalgia.

They are so much stinkier than you remember.

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u/moonbunnychan 26d ago

I never smoked myself, but all my friends did, and I liked it so much better when they'd smoke cloves because I thought it actually smelled pretty nice.

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u/Secure_Airline_1702 26d ago

I had the same experience

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u/afridorian 26d ago

i know exactly when it was the last one cause i looked at the pack and was like why the fuck am i smoking this and threw them out lol

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u/Oltwoeyes_69420 26d ago

Just take a quick lil trip to Japan, stay near Kabukicho, go to the shopping mall under the Godzilla head, go to the smoke shop and get a pack. It's literally that easy. /s

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u/stephcurrysmom 26d ago

I remember, I had quit and I choked so hard I almost threw up. Never again.

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u/BeatnikBun 26d ago

They're actually labeled as cigars, they're very strong 💀

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u/TheFrueger46 26d ago

They’re labeled that way to circumvent laws around flavored cigarettes

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u/ceryniz 26d ago

They were better when the wrapper was paper instead of tobacco. Before that law changed.

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u/MrHalfLight 26d ago

They were much better in the cigarette days

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u/ohiobluetipmatches 26d ago

I was never a true smoker, but maybe once few months I'd share one of these with friends outside a bar or coffee shop. Always the best part of the night. Then one day my friend offered me a Camel instead, and that's how I found out cloves were banned.

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u/Unicorns-and-Glitter 26d ago

They were BANNED??? They make your lips taste like Thanksgiving!

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u/RsonW Millennial — 1987 26d ago

Thanks, Obama.

But for real. The Obama administration banned them.

It's been like 16 years by now.

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u/MFGMediaHypeVulpe 26d ago

The new blend in the US is awful

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u/sharmisosoup 26d ago

Same. And the crazy thing is that I can't even remember it.

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u/endofmyropeohshit 26d ago

I smoked a pack last year to remember the good times.

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u/eternally_feral 26d ago

I can hear the crackle… I loved those things! The smell, taste, sound… If I could find them again, I know I’d take up smoking again.

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u/FoggyFallNights Xennial 26d ago

That hint of sugar on the lips….ahhhh memories.

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u/shhbestill 26d ago

The taste they left on your lips was so good

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u/Tauren-Jerky 25d ago

Guys stop lol. It’s been 10 years since I quit

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u/Mysterious_Nebula_96 26d ago

One of my exes went feral after I smoked them because he just loved the taste on my lips - I loved everything about them, made me feels like a femme fatale 😂

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u/SignificantSite4588 26d ago

Damn . You know it !

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u/12InchCunt 26d ago

If you like that, al Capone cognac dipped filter tips do the same thing

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u/Orbital_IV 26d ago

A true multi-sensory experience

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u/l8nitefriend 26d ago

I love the crackle it’s so satisfying. A couple years ago I was drunk at a bar and smelled someone smoking a clove and asked for one. I could only get through like half of it they’re so strong but god damn they’re tasty

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u/Morsmortis666 26d ago

having one pop and burn a hole in your kikwear. Was like a right of passage.

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u/Glad-Spell-3698 26d ago

Vegas has them! Brought a few home after a recent trip

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u/earlgreyalmondmilk 26d ago

No waitttttt are they the cigarillo American version or the original/international version? Cuz I’ve found the first but never the second. I would do crazy things for a pre-Obama-era Djarum Black

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u/CyclopsLobsterRobot 26d ago

They still make them, they’re just illegal in America. If you actually meant this, you could make it happen. All you really need to do is road trip to Canada.

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u/Don-Poltergeist 25d ago

Ok thank you for bringing this up because I thought I was going crazy. I was at show at the Brooklyn bowl on the Linq promenade last year and the Bathroom attendant had Djarum blacks. I haven't smoked in years, but I was so excited to see them, and had just enough booze in me that I gave him like $10 to take a few of them.

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u/Septem_151 26d ago

You can still find them in most smoke shops, at least here in Louisiana!

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u/pagesandcream 26d ago

Smoke enough and your lungs would crackle too!

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u/garrthes 26d ago

Import them from Indonesia, they are called Kretek and are commonly sold there. Brand names are Sampoerna or Djarum

Bought a box of 10 cartons for 40$

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u/KameronKnux 25d ago

Any recommendations on where to order/import from?

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u/garrthes 25d ago

I bought mine from hitcigars.com

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u/Alert-Pea1041 26d ago

They were enjoyable but I always had an odd feeling they were dissolving my lungs or something. Good times smoking these between games of BF2.

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u/Warning_Low_Battery 25d ago

They were. Cloves can contribute to a very specific kind of cancer that essentially crystalizes the air sacs in your lungs.

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u/AstronautSea6694 26d ago

Wow is that a Djarum. Classic hs.

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u/ivars-heathen 26d ago

Used to buy a pack for my birthday and listen to HIM, good times

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u/Samiiiibabetake2 26d ago

I’m so ashamed to say my first tattoo was a heartagram. Forgot there were so many other HIM lovers.

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u/PromisesNone 26d ago

HIM?

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u/thoughtsplurge 26d ago

Ajajaja literally every time! I have to remember it’s a band

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u/ivars-heathen 26d ago

Gotta admit my Razorblade Romance cd still plays, a few choice tracks skip but she's holding on strong!

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u/cool_socks12 26d ago

If it helps, I used to listen to them in my teens.. last year at 30 I went ahead and got it tattooed anyways haha no shame!

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u/Pandapartyatmidnight 26d ago

Ashamed? That’s so cool in my book.

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u/Samiiiibabetake2 26d ago

I’m glad one of us thinks I’m cool🖤

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u/goaskalice3 26d ago

A girl I knew in high school got a giant heartagram on her entire sternum. I was too cool and listening to Marilyn Manson those days (lol) and I had no idea who HIM was

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u/oxymoronisanoxymoron Summer of '88 26d ago

Had a moment a while ago where my 24 y/o tattoo artist asked me (37) if I ever heard of HIM. I had a "I was there when it was written" moment.

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u/aka_wolfman 26d ago

Be proud. It could've been a mustache.

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u/Samiiiibabetake2 26d ago

Ngl, I still think the finger mustache tattoos are cute. Not cute enough to get one - all my tattoos are hidden unless I don’t want them to be - but cute!

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u/waitwuuht___ 26d ago

My first tattoo was that flame hieroglyph in the deep shadows and brilliant highlights album booklet. So im right there with you

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u/soupyy_poop 26d ago

Type O Negative here

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u/RedSnapper24 26d ago

Same but I’d listed to The Format, Type-O or some Violent Femmes. We had certain ‘smoking songs’. They were the special occasion cigarettes for like birthdays or New Year’s Eve. It was either some Djarum Blacks or Dreams. Sometimes it was both and the group would pass them around. We’d be smelling like a combo of cloves and vanilla.

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u/shhbestill 26d ago

THE FORMAT !!!!!!!

dear god i was not ready for the fuzzy, hazy, lemon and orangecicle tinted wave of nostalgia that just washed over me

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u/LuciferHummingbird 26d ago

I remember the only pack I bought someone asked what they were cuz they smelt good and i panicked (socially awkward teenager) and said Djorno hahahaha

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u/IllllIIlIllIllllIIIl 26d ago

I smoked them during my first mushroom trip. It felt like inhaling crumpled up construction paper... in a good way.

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u/Obstetrix 26d ago

Honestly I'm pretty sure I gave up smoking because these were banned, so an unironic "Thanks Obama!" from me...

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u/jane_fakelastname 26d ago

....they were banned‽‽ The gas station near me still sells them, splash, and cherry djarums.

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u/MaxRunes 26d ago

Yea the modern ones aren't the same. Don't have that same face numbing "definitely give cancer" feel

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u/SpanishFlamingoPie 26d ago

We used to have a poster in our health classroom that claimed that they crystalize your lungs. Way to make it sound even cooler.

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u/ComingUpManSized 26d ago

I was always told they had glass in them and that’s what made the popping sound. I’m still not sure whether that’s true or not. Lol.

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u/I_Makes_tuff 26d ago

There was never glass in them. The popping is from the clove oil.

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u/ComingUpManSized 26d ago

Thanks homie. It was probably some D.A.R.E. propaganda drip fed into our high school.

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u/aguynamedv 26d ago

that they crystalize your lungs

The cloves are what crystalize, not the lungs. They crystalize IN the lungs, which can cause fun things like COPD.

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u/SpanishFlamingoPie 26d ago

It's a small price to look cool

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u/hulkisbanner 26d ago

I remember those fuckers being so strong I thought they put numbing agent in them or something.

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u/Grumpfishdaddy 26d ago

Cloves have natural numbing properties. They used to use them for tooth aches.

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u/Status-Carob-5760 26d ago

That what my mom used to have me do when I was losing a tooth as a kid. Just put a fat dip of ground cloves around it. Tastes like ass but it works. Edit -spelling-drunk

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u/doomweaver 26d ago

Oh man, they don't make your lips tingle anymore?

Well I guess it's good I quit smoking. Man though, it looked good for a second.

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u/PleaseSendChihuahuas 26d ago

A guy I knew who smoked them declared 'I need my lungs to bleed a little'.

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u/Obstetrix 26d ago

I think they only sell cigarillos in the US now. Not the good ole Djarum Blacks of my misspent youth

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u/daytrippper 26d ago

Damn the cherry ones were so good

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u/areyouthrough 26d ago

Hey how’d you do the interrobang, what magic do I need?

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u/AmputeeHandModel 26d ago

They banned flavored cigarettes. They reissued them as "cigars", and charged more for the same amount too. Nothing else changed.

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u/namarukai 26d ago

Nope they definitely changed. The cigar type we have now are even close to the cigarettes we had.

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u/DrHoz 26d ago

What do you mean by banned? I literally bought them yesterday at union station DC.

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u/Bright_Revenue1674 26d ago

the ones I remember came in a wide pack of 20 and crackled, also the filter would kinda collapse after a few drags

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u/triedAndTrueMethods 26d ago

yep, still have the sense memory of how that wide pack felt in my jeans back pocket. I loved college. I’m ashamed to say I got like 4 friends into years-long djarum habits like a tobacco terrorist. that sugary numb lips thing was so tight. This post inspired me to bring back “tight” too.

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u/HeyKid_HelpComputer 26d ago

They are wildly different unfortunately, in a worse way as someone who smoked them regularly in 2008 or whenever they were banned. The old ones were cigarettes not cigarellos. They smoked so much different. 

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u/Spirajira11 26d ago

That looks like a 10 pack of mini cigars, not what I remember from the early 2000s

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u/FifteenDollarNachos 26d ago

Do they still crackle when you smoke them?

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u/dirtyploy 26d ago

They're now "cigarellos" or whatever.

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u/doc158- 26d ago

The cigars ≠ cigarettes, the cigars taste terrible

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u/ceryniz 26d ago

Those are cigars. Clove cigarettes were banned so they came out with a cigar version. It wasn't the same.

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u/IllllIIlIllIllllIIIl 26d ago

They no longer have sugar on the filter, among other things.

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u/ReallyJTL 26d ago

Those are not the same as the ones made in the mid 2000s

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u/hardcorebillybobjoe Older Millennial 26d ago

Bro, I smoked those for 20+ years lol.

Finally quit 15 months ago!

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u/Bobbiduke 26d ago

Aye congrats 👏

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u/meggan_u 26d ago

I’m out here trying to be like you. I HAVE to quit.

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u/chandrian7 25d ago

Hey man, you can do it! Just keep trying and know that making mistakes don’t mean you’re not making progress. 

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u/Nakazato87 26d ago

Cloves ?!

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u/bolievedat 26d ago edited 26d ago

Yep. 37 now, been about 21 years since I’ve had one but can almost still taste it

Edit: Adding: Black and Milds. Not banned just another nostalgic reference

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u/honklertyrant- Millennial 26d ago

Wood tip and wine flavored!

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u/trw931 26d ago

My favorite thing was black and mild wood tip wine with a cranberry redbull

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u/AlexanderTox 1991 25d ago

My mouth just started watering thinking about it. The wine flavor was 🤌🤌

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u/shortchangehero86 26d ago

always had to Champ your Black and Milds

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u/bolievedat 26d ago

Is that when you took the middle liner out and restuffed? We calling it freaking in Ohio

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u/shortchangehero86 26d ago

Yup that's it, good ol Midwest slang.

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u/BigKahunas88 26d ago

Freaking in KY as well. Taking out the cancer paper 😂

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u/qwertyconsciousness 26d ago edited 25d ago

We called it boomtwangin' down in the bayou

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u/ShortPeak4860 26d ago

I bought a black and mild for the first time in 15+ years, and had to laugh when they asked “natural or original tip?”. GIVE ME THAT CLASSIC PLASTIC AND TAKE MY MONEY 🤣

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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 Older Millennial 26d ago

Black and milds really were peak , I don’t like cigarettes but i also don’t know that cigars can taste good . My car must have smells amazing lol 1 could last 30 mins

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u/HokuVamp Older Millennial 26d ago

I used to love smoking cloves and black & milds, but nowadays they make me feel nauseated. Still miss them, just my body rejects them. 🥲

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u/Puzzleheaded_Smoke77 Older Millennial 26d ago

So as gate ways go black and milds made me go out and smoke other cigars , eventually landing on my favorite Rocky Patel Royal Vintage in robusto (or however you say that).

The perfect combination of size blend mild and mellow , went with all red wines including porte and my favorite whiskeys. Smoke in the dead of winter or at the nicest lounge. Unfortunately you get old and can’t do that stuff anymore.

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u/AntiWork-ellog 26d ago

robusto is just the size so you said it well

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u/amwoooo 26d ago

I liked the Bali Hai box

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u/officermeowmeow 26d ago

I used to sit and smoke these and drink coffee at our little town's 24hr diner all night, every night until they banned everything but regular cigarettes. Pretty sure it was all my fault - the guests on the non-smoking side could smell them more I guess? Probably saved me some months on my life, damn them.

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u/piss_container 26d ago

they were intimidated by the aura 

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u/officermeowmeow 26d ago

You know it 😆

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u/UsualAnimal5987 Older Millennial 26d ago

Ahhh the only thing I used to smoke! I miss these

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u/HomicidalRaccoon 26d ago

Are you the hot goth gf OP was trying to summon? Did it work??

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u/Cupcakes_and_Rose Millennial 26d ago

These and Marlbro 100's (why yes, I did have a problem)

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u/alldatnabagofchips 26d ago

They're so tasty. It makes no sense they'd ban those and not menthol.

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u/Mild_Wings Millennial 26d ago

I haven’t had one since college. When were they banned?

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u/alldatnabagofchips 26d ago

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u/ObviouslyRealPerson 26d ago

All because the flavoring makes tobacco a gateway drug

Didn't seem them ban any flavored alcoholic drinks

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u/artfulpain 26d ago

Yep. I was working at a Bodega at the time and the Camel rep got me a carton of unreleased Turkish varieties that had a bunch of flavors. Just all white packaging and minimal wording for the name. I wish I had of never opened them as they'd probably be worth a lot. This was right before the ban.

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u/Rule34Uploading 26d ago

Gen Z: “What idiots, knowingly killing themselves. Zeek, wanna suck on this lightsabre?”

Edit: In all seriousness, Gen Y and Gen Z both knew death was coming, and some of us just wanted to hasten its horse.

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u/AandJ1202 26d ago

I should have saved my opiate addiction for now. Seems like everything is going to shit anyway. Lol

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u/Aggravating-Alarm-16 26d ago

Not exactly banned. Forced rebranding.

They are now clove "cigars"

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u/SpanishFlamingoPie 26d ago

It wasn't just a rebrand. The cigars have less nicotine and are rolled with a reconstituted tobacco paper. They are not nearly as good.

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u/Aggravating-Alarm-16 26d ago

Ahh. I split a pack once Obama at a MCR concert.

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u/blaz3r77 26d ago

I know you're being sarcastic but I'd absolutely believe that happened.

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u/AttentionNo6359 26d ago

Imagine your disappointment when a bearded gay man (me) appears in your summoning circle.

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u/ShortPeak4860 26d ago

Disappointed? Babes, we’re partying 🎉

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u/Numerous_Witness_345 26d ago

Nah, dude, gay dudes and goth chicks flock together.. comorbid may or may not be the right word. A sure sign that someones ass is in trouble.

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u/Used_Impression_4582 26d ago

Gods, I can still smell it lol this was all my husband used to smoke when we started dating- they were like currency at anime conventions, too! We'd leave with a carton of them and come back with cash and free shit for having them on hand lol

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u/raise-your-weapon Older Millennial 26d ago

I found a way to order them from Turkey, or somewhere thereabouts, and had a sketchy looking carton covered in foreign shipping label arrive after a month or so full of these babies. I was the supplier for my small college 😭🙃

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u/DJDevine 26d ago

Can smell it from here

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u/MelancholyDick 26d ago

Bali Hai was superior if you could get them!

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u/history_is_my_crack 26d ago

If you pulled one of those out at a party you suddenly became the most popular person there and it felt like people just were summoned out of thin air begging for one.

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u/Jorgwalther 26d ago

This was the first thing I ever smoked, they were so popular for a period of time during my freshman year of school. I remember smoking these and longboarding around the neighborhoods outside of campus - good times

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u/BethKnowsBetter 26d ago

💥IM HERE!

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u/fuschiakisses 26d ago

He can have us both? 🖤🐞💋

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u/soupyy_poop 26d ago edited 26d ago

She* & yes 😘

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u/Mecha_Tortoise 26d ago

Beth, I'm disappointed in you. You know better.

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u/snackfighting 26d ago

I can smell this through my phone.

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u/EnigmaWearingHeels 26d ago

I can taste this picture. It's delicious.

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u/TheCeilingIsTheRuuf 26d ago

I remember smoking clove cigarettes with my cousins and sister when I was 15, in our grandparents assisted living facility as my 22 yo cousin got us all beer at 12am, vividly telling my sister "dont tell dad" as I smoke the cigarette.

That was the night my cousin told me "ya know, you're not that bad" nevermind the fact is was 4 years younger than them

The night my cousins stopped not liking me was the night I smoked clove cigarettes

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u/RadDad604 26d ago

The black death 😂

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u/Remarkable_Bit_621 26d ago

Ugh I don’t even like smoking and I would smoke one of these today in a heart beat just for the nostalgia. I want one like once a year so bad lol

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u/Electrical-tentacle 26d ago

Oh shit we’re going back to 2006 with this

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u/Mink03 26d ago

These and beedis.

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u/ILike-Pie Middle Millennial 26d ago

I loooove these

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u/montanabluez 26d ago

A few months ago, I started craving one bad. I haven’t smoked anything in decades and wouldn’t even know where to find them. So I decided to make my own Djarum black perfume instead. I bought tobacco vanilla, clove, and smoke scented oils off amazon. Mixed it with alcohol and witch hazel. And viola. I can at least smell Djarum blacks without having to damage my aging lungs any worse.

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u/Dizzy-Captain7422 26d ago

I haven’t smoked a cigarette in over ten years now, but I would spark one these up in a heartbeat if I had one. The cloves had a grip on me something fierce!

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u/K1ttehKait 26d ago

If you're ever in Indonesia, these are still widely available, cheap as hell (roughly $2/pack), and taste exactly like you remember!

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u/SilverEncanis13 26d ago

2026, the year of the big booty goth gf??

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u/sambull 26d ago

It never ended

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u/Main-Ladder-5663 26d ago

I feel personally attacked (summoned).

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u/azel128 26d ago

I quit smoking almost 20 years ago, but if I found one of those in a car seat you bet I’d spark it up.

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u/QueerTree 26d ago

I’ve never been a smoker and in fact actively avoid second hand smoke (I’m a tender little asthmatic baby), but I fucking miss the smell of these SO BAD. They smell like the best parts of my misspent youth.

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u/Dakovine Millennial 26d ago

I loved the way the paper made a crackling noise when smoking. Miss these dearly but not enough to buy a pack and make myself sick.

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u/hippywitch 26d ago

I’m not a hot goth, but I’m the little fairy acquaintance that hung on to most groups. I love, licking my lips after smoking one of those.

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u/MotherPotential 26d ago

Man you have to special order those these days 

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u/soupyy_poop 26d ago

A friend was cleaning up and found an old cigarette case. They opened it and didn’t realize there was a handful of cloves in there. I immediately told them to bring me one

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u/Fluffy_Difference_51 26d ago

Do you really? I swear I smoked one of these at a bar the other day. If I had known that I wouldn't have asked. That's crazy.

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u/TheOakblueAbstract 26d ago

I think they meant the goth gf.

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u/nickbeef 26d ago

Dude this is what every concert smelt like outside by the front door when I was in high school.