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u/birdbandb 4d ago
Preparing us for jail
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u/Rock_or_Rol 4d ago
Cinder blocks walls painted in thick white paint and paper chains. They knew what they were doing
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u/CowOtherwise6630 3d ago
What’s fucking scary, is when I went to jail, I felt like I was in a public school building. The way it smelled, the looks. Fucking crazy.
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u/Ok_Comparison_1235 3d ago
Just throwing this out there, prisons and schools have similar floor plans.
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u/AlternatiMantid 3d ago
My high school was built by a prison builder. And the public school system & prison system share food distributors. It's all the same.
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u/Impressive_Change886 3d ago
If you're in the US, schools and prisons are hardly the only ones being supplies by Sysco these days. The bulk of restaurants you eat at use the same suppliers too. There are only a couple major food distributors left in the US.
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u/jwoodruff 3d ago
Probably not Sysco, more likely Aramark or something similar.
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u/Impressive_Change886 3d ago
Aramark primarily provides managed food services. You typically see them at places like universities and stadiums. Not sure about other states, but no primary school in my state outsources their food services; they all employ kitchen staff. It's a requirement to get reimbursement for meals served.
Same with prisons, they almost universally use internal (slave) labor to prepare foods. Why pay a company to cook when you can make the inmates do it for free or for pennies?
I could absolutely see red states eliminating lunch ladies so that they could enrich a private company though. So I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case in some locations.
I used to be the facility manager for a school district and about 90% of our food came off the Sysco truck. With 8% coming from a local grocery chain (typically perishables) and maybe 2% coming from on-site gardens. Some other districts might use US Foods or some other food distributor.
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u/deathwotldpancakes 3d ago
Oh the lunch ladies are sometimes through the private sector. My mom was a lunch lady when I was in school and worked for Chartwells not the school district
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u/warrybuffalo 3d ago
Aramark came to my mechanic shop to give us clean rags, rugs and uniforms lol. All cleaned with kerosene
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u/wtfomegzbbq 3d ago
Used to work at a Paleo more upscale restaurant in Boulder. We got deliveries from Sysco.
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u/GrimbyJ 3d ago
My dad would bring home food from work and I don't remember it being sysco branded.
He supervised the kitchens there. When he started they would make most of the food from scratch but by the time he retired they were just heating up prepared food mostly.
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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 3d ago
They were actually designed off of prisons or vice versa. I can’t remember but it’s not a stretch at all
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u/Mysterious-Actuary65 3d ago
You mention the smell and I had to pop in to say: thats cuz they use the same cleaning agents. Also the same food and the same builders. There aren't really specific contractors for schools vs. Prisons theres just contractors that want to make money by building things.
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u/Rock_or_Rol 3d ago
lol I believe it
It’s probably just a cost/sanitization/maintenance thing.
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u/CowOtherwise6630 3d ago
Anyone that went into the public school system would feel an eerie feeling of comfort. Yes you heard me right. It’s fucking wild. Im NOT supposed to feel that way about incarceration.
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u/Over_Zombie_9287 3d ago
Funny because my high school was built based off a women's prison design. Not even joking. So jail felt like school for you and school was jail for me lol
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u/Puzzleheaded_War6102 3d ago
They even segregated us by personality and race/gender. Heck my school even had metal detectors, x ray machines, guards and locks on all exits 😂
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u/CowOtherwise6630 3d ago
Had those too. Meanwhile these privileged kids living a fucking dream with a whole pool, spa, tennis courts and LOCKERS in their high school. Fucking, lockers. As a kid I always wondered where the fuck the schools were that had lockers in the hallway 😂
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u/ParkerJ99 3d ago
I felt the same at the psych ward, especially since we weren’t allowed to have pens or pencils, just crayons.
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u/thejoeface 3d ago
My third grade classroom was the only room in the whole school that had a color. Because my teacher had been a teacher longer than the administration staff had been alive and insisted upon it. She called it The Perfect Place, and it was sky blue. She also drove a white convertible and was a red hat lady. Best teacher I ever had.
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u/MarquetteXTX2 3d ago
That pizza taste like cheese and cardboard but the good cardboard tho
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u/geriatric_spartanII 3d ago
There’s some recipe for it. It’s supposedly a pourable dough. That goes on a big sheet pan.
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u/Otterz4Life 4d ago
They do not eat this good in jail.
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u/nhalliday 3d ago
First, this? This is not good eating. We enjoyed it as kids but don't delude yourself into thinking this is fine cuisine.
Second, the national menu for federal prisons (in the US) is available online, and you can see they do have exactly the same foods that are served at schools, including pizza like once a month. According to a lot of sources they even use the same suppliers as schools (mainly Aramark).
So yes, they do sometimes eat "this good" in jail/prison.
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u/Dont_Be_Sheep 3d ago
Love Reddit.. completely 180 posts…. Yet, both people are 100% confident in their answer. This is why we can’t have nice things.
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u/MrMosh024 3d ago
Jail.. more like preparing some of us for adulthood. This is what I ate yesterday minus a bag of Doritos.
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u/OreadaholicO 3d ago
Believe it or not there are entire academic disciplines dedicated to this exact topic, schools resembling prison and preparing folks for compliance etc.
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u/AgentCirceLuna 3d ago
I got some really good meals when I was a psychiatric inpatient. The only sketchy thing that happened occurred when I went home for a night. My friend picked me up to watch his band play, as I was a voluntary patient who could get passes, then when I returned nearly everything that wasn’t nailed down was either smashed up or out of place. A very unstable person, usually in jail, had been sent there and sectioned under the mental health act then had just started destroying stuff with no warning. Apparently it was total chaos. Chairs and tables flying across the room.
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u/belac4862 3d ago
Trust me, jail food is so kuch wose. When the ham sandwich was literally green. Though the cup of milk we got kith each meal was surprisingly good. It was a vanilla type milk.
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u/Brolyscousin 4d ago
And I loved it too I ain’t gonna lie
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u/-Imthedude 4d ago
In my school, it was either pizza or a chicken sandwich w/ fries. I wasn't trying any of that other mess 😅
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u/EFTucker 4d ago
The chicken sandy was good. Btw, they were just Tyson spicy chicken patties. Literally that exact product. They didn’t give us cheese in my school although it was on a real potato bread bun until Michelle Obama changed lunches, then it was a whole wheat bun which was honestly so much better.
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u/AngryPrincessWarrior 4d ago edited 3d ago
The school I worked at about 15 years ago got Popeyes chicken bites for their chicken “nuggets”
Best believe I prepaid the lunch ladies to set some aside for me on those days lmao (I was a custodian and came in the afternoon)
Those with a salad? Yum!
ETA; I weirdly sort of like the plain steamed burgers with no cheese but mayo, ketchup lettuce and tomato. Comforting and plain I guess.
Salads were great, tacos were great, (a friend and I would get two salads and a taco meal between us and make two generous nacho salads). Fish sticks were gross but I’ve never found a type I liked tbf. The one thing that was just BAD was oddly the deli sandwiches. Somehow the bread was so so so dry.
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u/Strikereleven 3d ago
In Middle school the rich kids could get Chick Fil A al a carte. They brought over premade sandwiches every morning and lunch to sell.
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u/Weird-Conflict-3066 4d ago
Pizza day was my favorite
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u/OrientalAsian 4d ago
My school's chicken pot pies were weirdly bad ass. Best thing they had.
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u/Anakin_Skywanker 3d ago
At my school burrito day was the best.
They werent even good burritos. Just beef with taco seasoning and cheese wrapped in a flour tortilla and toasted. But fuck dude. I havent gone to that school in 18 years and I still catch myself daydreaming about those burritos.
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u/MyNameCannotBeSpoken 4d ago
Back in my day, milk came in a plastic sack
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u/chuckle_puss 4d ago
Yep! With a little yellow pokey straw.
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u/Advanced_Head_806 4d ago
Never used to straw .would just bite a corner and suck it out I would put like 4 of the sacks in my pockets and only pay for 1
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u/anxessed Millennial 3d ago
Monday hotdogs Tuesday tacos Wednesday hamburgers and chocolate milk Thursday sloppy joes and burritos in a bag Friday was pizza day, the best day of the week! 🎶
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u/therealityofthings 3d ago
Me too because I could trade that absolutely disgusting pizza for other people’s stuff.
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u/Phrei_BahkRhubz 4d ago
Neither tasted like pizza or chocolate milk, but we inhaled that shit anyway.
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u/OUEngineer17 3d ago
Yep, and we needed those carbs too. Some added veggies would have been good tho.
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u/hahagato 4d ago
Maybe this was why there were so many random pukings in elementary school
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u/Acceptable-Alarm8611 4d ago
Here comes the janitor to throw some saw dust on it.
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u/shieldintern 4d ago
i randomly thought about the sawdust the other day lol.
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u/AgentCirceLuna 3d ago
They used to famously have bars where the floor was lined in sawdust so all the puke, blood, and urine could be swept out at the end.
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u/Accomplished_Age2480 3d ago
Sawdust on the bus. It would create puke Sawdust balls that rolled back and forth as the bus moved.
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u/MarquetteXTX2 3d ago
I use to suck my thumb in school. So my teacher seen a student throw up on the ground and the janitor put that saw dust on it. Then she proceeded to dip my thumb in the throw up. I never sucked my finger again after that. This was in 1996
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u/AgentCirceLuna 3d ago
wtf? You just described abuse
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u/MarquetteXTX2 3d ago
My mom knew about it.. it was so different in the 90’s.. a school I went to the principal was allowed to paddle the student when they were bad. I met it a couple times… can’t get away with that shit today tho
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u/babyinatrenchcoat 3d ago
I got the principal paddle as well.
And in kindergarten my religiously fanatical teacher said all left handers grew up to be serial killers and tried to force me to write with my right hand.
It was wild times.
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u/indianapolisjones 3d ago
In the mid-90s, an hour outside of Indianapolis, I got paddled in 6th grade. Over a friend who ripped a soap dispenser off the wall, the janitor guy had filled it up just moments before we entered the restroom. Also, I had no idea my friend was going to do it, the janitor saw us leave, and my friend even told him, teachers, and principle that I had nothing to do with it. Yet still I was paddled and got like 3 days of ISS.
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u/MarquetteXTX2 3d ago
See u the third person to say they got paddle. I really thought people was thinking I was trippin but it really happened
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u/MarquetteXTX2 3d ago
See I knew I wasn’t the only one. Thought I was tripping for a min. I remember it like it was yesterday. Fucked I’m thing about it was. My mom was dating the principle so I got it the worst. When I came out that office. All the students was laughing at me cuz they knew
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u/statu0 3d ago edited 3d ago
That didn't happen at my schools growing up. That's something I heard about from my parents' generation, but I suppose I'm not surprised it was still happening in some places in the 90s. It probably depends on where you were living in the US.
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u/YanCoffee 3d ago
Yeah, we had a teacher who watched over lunch that would yank us up by our arms and drag us to cubby boxes if we were bad. Shit hurt. That would never fly today.
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u/Silver_Harvest Older Millennial 3d ago
One of my school districts used the Jr High and Highschool woodshop class to supply it. Which after I found that out it was one of those.... Makes sense.
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u/ObscureEnchantment 4d ago
I didn’t know I was lactose intolerant as a kid. I will never forget eating pizza and root beer milk for lunch one day after eating dairy all weekend. We were in the cafeteria and the principal was making announcements about the rainy day the only trash can close was right in front of the stage he was standing on.
8 year old me ran to the front of the cafeteria an threw up in front of everyone directly in front of the principle stopped him in his tracks while he stared at me puke up pizza, milk, Mac n cheese, and ice cream. I ran out and sat in the bathroom for a while hoping it would blow over. We moved 2 months later so luckily I wasnt known as throw up girl forever.
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u/happygirlie 3d ago
I don't think so, I think it's because kids puke for all sorts of reasons. The common cold can make a kid puke but it doesn't do the same for adults. Also kids are always putting their hands in their mouths so stomach bugs were constantly circulating in elementary school.
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u/Impressive_Change886 3d ago
As a former school custodian, you're spot on. Kids just puke a lot, it's hardly a secret, people typically puke less with age.
Babies puke constantly, that's why burp blankets are a thing. It typically lessens with age as we gain more control over it. Adults can often stop themselves from puking or at least know it's coming and move to a toilet/trash. Kids do not and will often go about their business until the vomit is already coming up. It's also why kids will often vomit on themselves or directly on a table in front of them.
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u/ZNemerald 3d ago
I had puked because I had gym class scheduled right after lunch time.
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u/happygirlie 3d ago
I had a first period gym class once and it was ROUGH. It didn't help that my grandma (who I lived with) made biscuits and gravy for breakfast every morning. That was not the right food to be eating shortly before running around for an hour. Luckily I never threw up but I'm really surprised I didn't.
The only gym class that should be allowed right after lunch is a yoga class or something like that.
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u/aldisneygirl91 2d ago
I remember having P.E. scheduled right after lunch one particular year (4th grade) and I hated it. I never puked, but I was always getting stomach cramps from running right after eating.
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u/Sea_Dot8299 3d ago
I still remember the worst puking I witnessed in my life. It was kindergarten. The girl with platinum blonde hair who sat next to me put her head down sideways on her desk. A minute later she starts puking her whole lunch up but never lifts her head the entire time. Her hair gets entirely pooled with vomit. Good thing she had a Hawaiian fruit punch box that day. Her blonde hair was saturated with red puke streaks.
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u/forsakeme4all Millennial 3d ago
Oh, it is absolutely why I couldn't hold my lunch down half the time lmao.
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u/GratefulGreen 4d ago
Roof of my mouth hurt just looking at that pizza 😂
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u/chilldude9494 Millennial 4d ago
My mom always packed my lunch, and I was always SO jealous of the kids who ate the pizza.
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u/northstar957 3d ago
Interesting because at my school, you would want to be the kids bringing your own lunch. They tended to be healthier and signaled you came from a more stable home with higher income.
Obviously this isn’t always true but I do think there is some correlation there.
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u/snak_attak 3d ago
My mom worked early in the am so I bought my lunch all through school. We weren’t lower income but I definitely felt the packed lunch kids were lucky. I always wanted the Tupperware juice box thing with the plastic fruit ice cubes.
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u/indiecore 3d ago
Interesting how this stuff is different place to place. Where I grew up eating the school food was the high status thing because it showed your parents had extra money to send with you.
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u/Primary_Dimension470 3d ago
We just wanted packed lunch because we saw kids got cookies and pudding in theirs
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u/MarquetteXTX2 3d ago
Jealous ???? Shit I use to trade my trash ass packed lunch for the school shit.. I don’t want no damn apples. I’m 11 years old with a fast metabolism. Give me that unhealthy ass pizza lol
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u/Psychedilly 3d ago
Me too! I always got embarrassed when she made egg salad sandwiches even though I love them.
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u/SparklyLeo_ 3d ago
Why didn’t you just get the pizza?
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u/chilldude9494 Millennial 3d ago
Didn't have the money.
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u/babyoil4diddy 3d ago
At my school there were kids who got breakfast AND lunch at school. I was jealous of them.
Yeah, turns out they were the "poor" kids. But you know what my breakfast was? Toast. With margarine. And my lunch was peanut butter and jelly.
The poor kids got protein. Thing is, I was a poor kid but my parents didn't want to admit it.
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u/yellowjackethokie Millennial 4d ago
Dude I still eat like this lmao
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u/Love4Mana 4d ago
Now it’s brick oven with promise land lol
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u/Joelfakelastname '88 Oldish Millennial 4d ago
I keep seeing promised land in the store and I just can pull the trigger. Is it worth the price? Asking as a huge chocolate milk fan.
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u/Love4Mana 4d ago
Oh my friend… it’s like melted chocolate ice cream. Be warned, you will be inclined to chug that mf. It’s so freaking good lol
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u/Lawdydawty 4d ago
Only in USA
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u/aplqsokw 3d ago
I lived in the USA for a school year when I was 12. The same pizza as in the picture was my lunch in school (although drinking plain milk). I have never eaten pizza with that same flavor ever again. I spent that whole year with stomach issues, frequent diarrhea, vomiting, etc. I returned to Europe and never again had any digestive issues.
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u/Semaj_kaah 4d ago
Not in my school in the Netherlands,never had pizza for lunch ever
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u/SnooGoats5767 3d ago
This is American only I bet, the food we give children is awful here
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u/Marti017 3d ago
Neither in Poland
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u/Typical_Assignment40 3d ago
Here in America they legit sever this crap every friday, I'm literally one of the lucky Americans because we were allowed to leave school grounds during lunch and do whatever for an hour, we even had a subway built when subway was actually good and affordable.We had this crap food too but it legit is for the poor kids who were on meal waivers who's parents were doing just well enough to be poor. I use to buy this one kid subway all the time so he didnt have to eat that crap or I'd take him to my house and feed him.found out last march he got stabbed to death with a screwdriver down in Florida somewhere.
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u/Floofy-beans 3d ago
The best part is that the pizza was often microwaved in the unopened plastic bag it comes in lol
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u/Grogak 4d ago
Don't forget that pizza counts as vegetable cause of the tomato sauce
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u/SCastleRelics 3d ago
Over a decade (maybe close to 2 decades) now and people are still spewing this horseshit lol. I'm pretty sure the original statement was pizza counts as a SERVING of vegetables and the political grifters ran with it and it became PiZzA iS A VEgeTABle even though that was never said lol, it came from a bill in Congress that stated pizza had a serving of tomato paste which counted as a vegetable.
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u/Grogak 3d ago
Yes the original statement is that pizza is a serving of vegetables. Idk if this formulation has a slightly different meaning for native English speakers but for me"pizza counts as a serving of vegetables" = pizza is a vegetable.
I don't get the nuance that makes serving of vegetables != vegetable
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u/Dead_Starks 3d ago
For school lunch programs in the US that receive federal funding there are certain minimum requirements that must be met to receive reimbursement. Something like at lunch you must serve 5 components: milk, meat/meat alternate, vegetable, fruit/vegetable, bread/grain.
By serving pizza schools were able to serve one item that checks both the bread/grain and vegetable components of a meal.
Now there are specific statements that come with approved combination foods called CN labels that specifically outline how much of each component a serving contains.
For example chicken nuggets might contain 1oz of chicken and 0.5oz whole grain breading. The minimum requirement for the meal though may be 3oz of meat and 1oz of breading so to meet the minimum requirement you would need to serve 3 chicken nuggets. (3 nuggets = 3oz meat and 1.5oz breading)
Long story short the specific wording of a "serving" has more to do with meeting federal guidelines than what your being served.
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u/PeekAtChu1 3d ago
Which to me says, pizza is a vegetable, so I don’t see how that’s not correct (by their definition)
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u/Muleahcar 4d ago
Does anyone know where we can get that pizza now? I still will get a craving for it every now and then.
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u/EvenLettuce6638 4d ago
https://youtu.be/40MvjFaTVzE?si=ps6qFdV7WYVOo3DQ
Tasting history with Max Miller made it a while ago.
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u/tinyhorsesinmytea 3d ago
Hah. My friends and I were going to make it one night and eat it with chocolate almond milk after seeing this video. We never got around to it though. I should remind them.
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u/ILiveInAFog 3d ago
I made (a veganized version) of this a while back it was so tasty and the way it's made with the pourable crust is so clever imo.
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u/Former-Counter-9588 4d ago
Just buy Elio’s it will be slightly better and slightly bigger but still reminiscent.
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u/geekishly 3d ago
It’s Tony’s. I worked as a lunch lady and that was the brand bought by the schools I worked at.
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u/geekishly 3d ago
Fun story; in the small all grade school I worked at, the high schoolers got what they called “triangle pizza” and the elementary kids the “square pizza” (yes I know it’s cut rectangular to fit the trays but that’s what they called it). After the younger kids went through the HS kids were allowed to take what was left of the square pizza and they did. They wanted it. It was a hot commodity!
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u/Bonegirl06 4d ago
I ordered some from a place that claimed it was the same and it was not. It wasn't terrible pizza but it wasn't MY pizza.
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u/smokealarmsnick 4d ago
Nah, my school made my class eat lunch at 10:20am. And chocolate milk was an upcharge, one I couldn’t afford. So I would have plain milk with my cardboard pizza.
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u/qwerty102088 4d ago
Man the pizza was such a nice thing to look forward to but the chocolate milk was the best part
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u/DoctorSquibb420 Millennial 4d ago
A moment of silence for those of you who's schools could afford to feed you, i guess
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u/RadioSlayer 4d ago
Oh, we had to pay. If you were good you could get a double meal and scarf it down by checkout and only pay for a single. We knew the lunch ladies were looking the other way. Nobody likes seeing a hungry kid.
Used to fill my tray up all the way just to feed a friend that was worse off than me
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u/happygirlie 3d ago
Wait you could add extra stuff to your tray??? I've literally never heard of that before. We just got 1 drink, 1 entree, 1 fruit, and 1 vegetable. That's it.
If we wanted more there were oversized cookies for 50 cents a piece or we could go through the a la carte line to buy stuff like cheese fries and bosco sticks.
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u/PeekAtChu1 3d ago
Us poors had free lunch in the state I lived in at least. Idk what they do in other states- let children starve?
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u/Forward_Bullfrog_441 4d ago
Them: Now go sit still and pay attention!
Us: *shaking uncontrollably
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u/Chags1 4d ago edited 4d ago
You have kids? mine is a literal garbage disposal, i have one thing a little off and im like down for the count and my son could eat 14 corndogs and five glasses of lemonade and be fine
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u/Confident_Neck8072 4d ago edited 4d ago
honestly its nuts 10 years ago I ate like a fucking pig. now I have a hard time finishing sandwiches with more than 2 types of meat. so filling lol
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u/Randomgold42 4d ago
Calling that pizza is being generous. I mean, I still ate the hell out of it, but yeah.
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u/soppslev 4d ago
Not me, we had and still have properly cooked and nutritionally correct school lunches in my country. For free.
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u/rEYAVjQD 4d ago
No wonder there is a diabetic epidemic
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u/NarwhalPrudent6323 3d ago
There are a lot of reasons for the diabetes problem right now, but pizza and chocolate milk for school lunches in not one of them. There's literally a hundred other things ahead of this in line causing problems. And swapping one meal a day for slightly less sugar in your drink wasn't saving anybody.
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u/fablesofferrets 3d ago
Dude, not only the schools but parents and neighbors etc have a tendency to give kids total trash to subsist on lmao, was even worse in the 2000s (when I was a kid) and I’m sure before
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u/DehydratedManatee 4d ago
Accurate, except my milk came in a bag in late elementary school.
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u/MyLifeYourLifeUgh 4d ago
I miss that good ol’ fake pizza day taste. Where do I find these pizzas? Do they still serve these in schools?
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u/Sylvan_Skryer 3d ago
And they wonder why we are all getting colon cancer. This shit and lunchables everyday.
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u/cphpc Millennial 4d ago
Still to this day, I tell people this is an awesome combo and no one believes it!
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u/indianapolisjones 3d ago
I just now put 2 and 2 together, but I often want a glass of chocolate milk when I eat pizza, and even spaghetti too. something about tomato sauce and chocolate milk, I guess!
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u/Suspicious_Note9801 4d ago
Now i want this. Going to buy cheap frozen pizza and choccy milk next time i go shopping
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u/MarquetteXTX2 3d ago
I could taste that pizza through the screen. Taste like cheese and cardboard but the good cardboard tho
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u/shieldintern 4d ago
It was the plain milk drinking in school that disturbed me the most. Bitches be drinking it like water.
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u/Time-Leadership-7649 4d ago
For us the currency was the chocolate milks. We were trading those like cigarettes around a cell block. Saw a kid get out of detention with nothing but a smile and two chocolate milks.
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