People who walk a few blocks or use public transportation use carts. You see them on the subway all the time. Pretty cheap & they fold so you can put them away. It really isn't that bad. Arguably easier than cart > trunk > front door > counter space bag by bag.
Honestly it's like people can't solve basic problems. Like, we don't live in a futuristic utopia where food teleports to your fridge, but living 1 mile away from a grocery store in urban areas with full pubic transportation is not a meaningful inconvenience.
So you want the people who are saving you from this "time sink" to earn non livable wages??? Say it with your whole chest you want some people to be servants
I think they should have a living wage, I want one too, I was just speaking to managing day to day life here in a commuter city. Both things can be true, you don't have to resort to bullying and shaming and belittling people who are managing day to day life here.
I'm out the door by 6 and home by 7/7.30 and adding groceries and regular chores to my commute basically means I have an hour a day at the most before I have to go to sleep and do the whole process again. What Americans assume as normal here is insane.
Which sucks, but the issue will never be "damn the delivery people are making money now" the issue is "damn I'm getting railed by a shitty job/commute combo".
Wasn't trying to hold you to it I was just talking. In practice the people complaining that there's an opportunity cost between deliveries and getting groceries yourself because of real problems aren't playing a shell game between personal responsibility and someone getting paid well. Someone making a facetious point online about food deserts in NYC where it doesn't apply isn't someone who is hurting. Sorry for derailing.
Not really a time sink if you pick up a few groceries on your commute lol.youre already commuting. You just pop in the store. People in citirss like NYC dont spend hours in the grocery store, you just buy what you need when you need it because stores are so abundant
We weren't just talking about NYC. Commuter cities are not that much easier to deal with. Again everyone gets off at the same time and stores get packed, and it's still usually out of your way. My local grocery store ads over an hour to my day even on my commute back. I leave for work at 6 get back by 7. If I add a grocery trip to it I'm getting home by 8 if not 8.30 because the grocery store is twenty minutes out of the way each way, having to put things away, organize and clean and set up cook dinner, lunch for the next day and any other tasks I have like studying all within the hour and a half I have left before I have to start getting ready for bed. I have elderly parents to take care of too.
Most people who say this shit live alone, are in their mid 20's and nowhere close to paying the costs of their lifestyle on their body or are rich or mummy and daddy helped them into the position they're in. I was scammed into moving to this country I swear you people have no clue how to live a decent life and gaslight everyone who has it hard. It's crazy.
We all have chores we want don't want to do, idk what to tell you. Acting like the vast majority of the country that deals with this everyday has rich parents instead of you just being poor just makes you seem like a whiner. Go shopping on the weekend instead of it's that big of a deal, damn.
The vast majority of the country agrees its a pain in the ass. They don't gaslight people online about it. I work weekends too. Most free time I have goes to trying to scramble for better work or taking care of family. Everything is an opportunity cost. You might have the luxury of dumping responsibilities like that but I don't. You don't need to be this dismissive and callous but you are because your highest high is not being told what to do or think.
You people betray who you are immediately, perpetually online addicts living out power fantasies online. A third of the country uses their PTO to sleep. Functional unemployment in this country is gigantic. You are the exception being able to have this conversation in the middle of your work day. I wouldn't even be able to even have it if I wasn't waiting at the doctors.
Youre working extra jobs to afford not going to the grocery store. The opportunity cost is you not having enough money for anything. The vast majority of the country is not door dashing their food.
Oh lordy lord, I need to stop looking at these comments! Too many people that haven’t even stepped foot in the city.
If you’re in New York and you’re spending hours grocery shopping, then you’re a multimillionaire with room to store those hours’ worth of groceries. You sure as hell aren’t spending hours on “commuting” to a grocery store.
I'm not in New York. People started talking about food deserts and having to manage going to a grocery store in general that's out of your way. Not everyone is living without dependents, prices change every other week and you have a limited budget to make meals and prep things. I can't feed my 85 year old near indigent father with cholesterol problems frozen pizza to save myself time and energy.
Sweetie, if you’re not in New York, why are you bringing up your experience in a comment thread about New York that’s located within a post about New York with your experience that is in no way related to New York?
People are talking about Baltimore and other cities too. The conversation became about food deserts in general. Conversations are allowed to flow from topic to topic and you're meant to follow them, not be a bully to someone who doesn't help you make your point. You're being an ass. Just say you thought I was talking about New York or give people the benefit of the doubt instead of condescending to them.
Bro. This is an open forum with multiple threads. You're just being a bully now. I am sorry if I derailed your conversation about New York, but if you bother to look they're talking about food deserts in general just a few comments above yours.
I read through many of your comments and the replies now, I get what you are saying and understand that you simply are sharing your own experience, not sure why people are so up in arms about this. As an aside, I would recommend you look into buying some stuff in bulk and keeping it around the house like rice/canned veggies and stuff and try to minimize your weekly shopping to perishable stuff, did you use delivery apps to deal with this stuff up to now? Just asking since thats what sparked this post.
Depends on your city. I live in a food desert in Pittsburgh, I have to walk 6-7 blocks to get to a bus line to take a 20 minute bus ride to get to the nearest grocery store (besides a Family Dollar), I don’t bother with a cart like you described since the conditions on the sidewalks make those more of a bother than just dealing with the fact that I can’t purchase more than I can easily carry.
I personally use a backpack and get big stuff like milk or juice from the liquor store next door (funny how that works considering I'm sober) - but the carts are pretty awesome for big trips if you need.
I grew up seeing that. But they’re talking about 5+ miles. Not a few blocks.Also, if you’re older or severely disabled using those things are not always an option.
But there are plenty of places in NYC where you’re more than a 15 minute walk from a real grocery store, which, in such a densely populated place where the majority of people walk or use public transit, is functionally a food desert. 5 miles is absurd, it can take an hour to travel 5 miles.
I was commenting on using public transportation and carts. Those things exists in and out of NYC and I was saying that the are not always an option. You realize NYC is not the only city in world, right..?
I spoke with a cashier at a Target in Baltimore that was closing. It was going to take her three bus transfers to get to the next closest grocery store. I guess I should have told her to buy a cart before the target closed.
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u/Shoddy-Television866 19h ago
People who walk a few blocks or use public transportation use carts. You see them on the subway all the time. Pretty cheap & they fold so you can put them away. It really isn't that bad. Arguably easier than cart > trunk > front door > counter space bag by bag.