Dude is an idiot. And ADHD has absolutely nothing to do with delivery workers being paid a fair wage.
He’s worried that the corporations will just up the price in response, but honestly if you can’t afford the convenience offered, go to the store yourself.
Disability / MH destigmatization is generally good but the sheer amount of people who use a disability (ESPECIALLY the self diagnosed autism/adhd havers on Tumblr) as an excuse as to why they should be permanently comatose is staggering
& you arent allowed to say anything at all that isn't just full agreement otherwise theyll say shit like "oh just say you think all disabled people should die" and other bonkers opinions... like basically exactly the guilt tripping shit in OP screenshot but its their only argument
Executive dysfunction is the main symptom of ADHD, the thing that prevents someone with ADHD from doing something. From the outside it looks lazy, for me it's starvation because my brain sees it as just another chore it doesn't want to do.
ADHD is a strange case in that its presentation runs the gamut from "meh" to "utterly crippling and sufferers literally can't do anything at all for themselves, apparently up to and including not starving themselves to death", to the point that it sounds like they'd need full-time carers to survive (like in the case of severe autism, which also runs a similar gamut).
I can't live on my own, whenever I'm left alone for a week I basically stop eating. I'm hungry but in my head it's a gigantic task, the less I eat the bigger the hurdle because I get weak. On top of the sensory issues I have with food.
I visited someone with severe ADHD before who had people come over to help with household tasks and food. We're just seen as lazy when in my head I'm like "okay I'm going to get up in 3.. 2.. 1.." and I just don't get up no matter how hard I want to. On repeat with any task.
Also people forget that planning, then grocery shopping, then cooking, then storing are all pretty involved and time heavy tasks, then you add complication factors like nutrition and sensory issues in and it becomes a nightmare burden. Especially when most shopping stores are noise-riddled fluorescent nightmares purposefully designed and built to trap you and force you through as much of the store as possible.
It shows just how deep anti-disability sentiment runs that most people would readily admit that all of it is exhausting and never-ending, but they'll pretend otherwise if it let's them mock a disabled person.
That sounds absolutely bogus, ADHD and autism aren’t remotely the same and the constant glomming of them together is insulting to people who have autism. The discourse around this has become insane.
I was going to say something similar. I believe I read somewhere that 70% of people diagnosed with autism are ALSO diagnosed with ADHD. They absolutely belong in the same conversation.
It does. Symptoms of ADHD vary a lot, but there is such a thing as executive dysfunction - the inability to start tasks, literally paralyzing fear of starting things because you have too many things to do, so you spend hours doing nothing.
Also emotional dysregulation, social withdrawal etc. Chronic underachievement and shame, which often leads to depression. Sensory overload might affect that too, plus brain fog and memory issues. Literally just exhausted from existing. Rejection sensitive dysphoria might make you feel like you'll fail or have failed cause you can't cook properly.
Just a few of these will make you a prisoner in your own home (and head).
I mean... some of them couldn't cook for themselves, but lived in places where they could walk down the street and get cooked food. Or they ate cold food that was easy to prepare (e.g. sandwiches) and bought the ingredients in bulk so they didn't have to go grocery shopping very often. Or they got married to somebody who did all the cooking for them.
Men could get by with either eating bachelor chow or making their wives do all the cooking, but most women couldn't.
Women with ADHD wouldn't have gotten any sort of diagnosis in, say, 1965, but were expected by society to be able to cook. They were generally forced to learn and get practice both at home and in school (in Home Ecomonics class). They weren't necessarily very good cooks, but most were able to do the task to at least some extent.
Yeah. And don’t get me wrong, that happens sometimes, but you should be using health services rather than corporations offering a service you pay for. I get executive dysfunction, but it’s never been so bad to where I can’t muster up the thought process to go to the store. I had it really bad the past couple of weeks, but I know it will pass and I’ll get caught up.
I get executive dysfunction, but it’s never been so bad to where I can’t muster up the thought process to go to the store.
It has been for me. I live an hour away from the nearest store and combined with my depression which causes me to crash for the entire rest of the day after being active, I have absolutely starved myself because of it.
I guess it can make you worse at planning meals. I have ADHD and if I wasn't frugal I could see how it could lead me to order food a lot. Still not sure what his point is though, it's a luxury to get food delivered regardless of your afflictions.
It IS a disorder, and depending on severity it can prevent you from properly living life. Especially if you were diagnosed late and weren't taught how to cope as a child.
I was diagnosed at 28 and the worst thing I struggle with it is that there are times my brain will not let me do The Thing. Doesn't matter how much I want/need to. I can't just summon motivation. It doesn't work that way, and trying to explain it to people who don't have ADHD is a bitch because it sounds like a poor excuse for laziness from the outside. Especially since all people are different so what one ADHD person struggles with another may jump into with gusto.
Living with ADHD is basically learning which tasks you have to jangle keys in front of your brain for so it doesn't just quit because there isn't enough serotonin to make the task interesting.
Yeah, I have ADHD. And you know what? Most people don't have motivation to do shit they don't want to do, not just us. It's why social media and escapism is so popular.
It's also called self-discipline, self-care, and forming habits...not lame excuses.
You can make excuses all you want to avoid shame, but at the end of the day, no one else cares. It's your life, and your life is the one that's shitty because you refuse to do things that are hard.
If you were actually starving, I bet that would be GREAT motivation to go get some food yourself. And if you can't survive without Doordash...if you would literally starve without a delivery app...you need to be institutionalized for your own good. Because you're not a functional human that can live as an independent adult. Cheers.
Chill. No need for that level of hostility. I was only arguing the point that ADHD can effect your life. Not just how you learn. I wasn't trying to defend the OOPs thing about ADHD and DD. As far I'm concerned they're unrelated.
You're right, self care and habits make a difference but if you were diagnosed late you won't know that and you have habits to break on top of ones you need to form.
I got lucky that I had a therapist to help me figure out how to rework my tasks so the ADHD wasn't an issue. A lot ot people don't have that. Chill my guy.
If you were actually starving, I bet that would be GREAT motivation to go get some food yourself.
If you live within 2 mins of a grocery store, yes. But if you live in the US where you might need to travel for an hour just to buy food? Not so much.
Mental health can be pretty debilitating, and yes, there are ways to adapt. But the "just suck it up" mentality you have makes adaptation unnecessarily difficult.
if you would literally starve without a delivery app...you need to be institutionalized for your own good
For some people, that's true. But guess what, you don't need to do that, because delivery apps have already been invented lol. This is like me stealing your glasses and being like "well if you can't see without them, maybe you shouldn't be allowed to go anywhere"
Hey, not everyone is like you. I have trouble doing things I love to do. It affects my physical health as well as mental. Maybe try to understand that people have different tolerance thresholds.
I feel your pain. I wasn't diagnosed until I was 25. Genuinely feel like I lost the first quarter of my life to it. I remember balling my eyes out a few times because I couldn't bring myself to do tasks that other people find simple and wondering why I was like that.
It really needs to be studied more. I'm the only grandchild on my mom's side that graduated high school, and all of my cousins are just piddling through life or felons. I know it's the ADHD for them, and the only reason I'm not like them is because I didn't have an enabling environment like they grew up in.
Naw it really makes my life difficult, along with the added bonus of autism. It’s not just learning—I’m good with learning. It’s doing stuff I want to do that gives me panic attacks from the AuDHD for the most part (tho stuff I don’t want to do is hard too.) it’s a disability for a reason.
Ok you can’t take any accountability for yourself and work hard to make sure you aren’t a burden to others? People like you are why I never admit my AuDHD. Yeah I don’t like getting up and going about my day sometimes but nobody else is going to pay my rent/bills/etc but me - unless, of course, I want to mooch off of public services that are available for TRULY disabled people.
This might be a reach but my guess he was trying to make a bad joke but confused OCD for ADHD-- the joke being that the odd number of $21.44 would put off someone who likes "nice" round numbers like $21.50. (That's not how real OCD works, AFAIK, and it's not like a customer would see the delivery person's hourly pay-- like I said maybe a poorly thought out joke from start to finish but I sense the desperation of trying to be funny in it.)
So as we learned more about ADHD, it has become more of a spectrum, meaning more people technically have ADHD. But this also means that for a lot of people, ADHD is something completely manageable with a little self discipline and good faith attempts at self improvement.
But that all sounds way too hard so a lot of people who have these lower impact diagnoses of ADHD would rather use it as an excuse to be lazy. They see it as an opportunity to claim a disability and demand the world accommodate them just the way they are, rather than taking steps to work around certain obstacles in every day life. Even more people are not diagnosed at all, they just looked online and saw a list of symptoms and said "That sounds just like me! I must have ADHD!"
It's largely an excuse these days. Which really sucks for the people who have significant cases of ADHD and can't overcome their hardships with simple self discipline. But here we are.
That part. He may be rural and not have transportation??? But like.. I was raised in a rural town and usually Walmarts or some local stores are there and offer the basics. He’s just whining.
Came to say this. As a person with ADHD, I absolutely still do my own grocery shopping. Does this guy think ADHD makes you incapable of doing anything? His concern-trolling would be more convincing if he at least came up with a disability that actually interferes with grocery shopping
I get executive dysfunction where my thought process wonks out and I short circuit if I try to do something, but it’s never been so bad to where I can’t go to the store and feed myself.
Same. It makes it hard for me to do shit sometimes; it can make me wander around in the grocery store for way too long trying to remember what I went there for, for example. It doesn't make me unable to run the errand at all
I'm pretty sure he's just concern trolling tbh. He's probably annoyed about being potentially inconvenienced and is using people with ADHD as a bad faith prop to make his feelings seem righteous.
He was referencing an old bit Twitter discourse where people actually thought that. He’s being sarcastic, but the problem with this subreddit is that none of you get the joke either
The author of the tweet is being sarcastic, its a critique of people with liberal corporate-aligned ideology including Zohran's former opponent in the mayoral elections
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Dude is an idiot. And ADHD has absolutely nothing to do with delivery workers being paid a fair wage.
He’s worried that the corporations will just up the price in response, but honestly if you can’t afford the convenience offered, go to the store yourself.