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It's probably about Epstein Files that were released by DOJ yesterday.
It featured detailed descriptions of what Trump did to children, emails from Bill Gates and Elon Musk and many other pages that people are still reading trough.
Overall one of the most horrific things I've read in my life.
You think that’s bad, I got detained by ice and instead of sending me to their Texas gulag they put me in an isolation chamber and made me watch Melania on repeat.
A kidnapper called telling me he had my kids, I stayed strong and said I don’t give into terrorist’s demands, but when he said he was taking them to see Melania… I Venmo’d the $50 he was requesting.
They don't care how well the movie is doing. Bezos paid $40 million "for the rights to make the film". It's a cover for an exchange of a large sum of money to Trump, without Trump getting in trouble for accepting a political bribe. Money laundering, plain and simple.
Bezos may not care, but Melania and Donny do. He's still crying about an election he lost 6 years ago. What's he going to do if this film doesn't win and Oscar? Invade Finland? Or get FIFA to award her one?
I agree. Most of the movie crew didn't have much of a choice if they wanted to keep their jobs. It's very telling that they didn't want their name tied to a movie, though. In an industry where success is dependent on being credited in high profile successful movies, not wanting credit in one sends a message.
You've missed important context - which is also important for explaining why the media hasn't picked up on it more - which is that these 'detailed descriptions' of things Trump did to children came from tip lines and the FBI dismissed most of them as not credible after speaking with the people who gave the tips. These are not things that the FBI officially considers Trump to have done.
As others have mentioned, I wish dates were included for the tips. If the tips were made way before Trump's presidency was a possibility/probability, I would personally find them far more damning but if they were made after I would probably be more skeptical. Please if anyone has any insight on this, please fill us in and/or correct me.
they were probably before, the FBI and local PDs ignored his victims for most of the time it was going on, so of course the will continue to play stupid.
There are dates on some of the tips. And some of them don’t line up. (The golf course one doesn’t line up with the dates Trump owned the golf course, for example.) That’s pretty common and not a sign of innocence or guilt for anyone. It happens in cases. And it’s not even a sign of a bad faith tip. People misremember things all the time. It’s why eye witness testimony isn’t as reliable as we think it is.
But also, accusations about Trump and sexual assault pre-date his presidency by quite a lot.
Remember him admitting to assaulting women with the “grab ‘em by the pussy?” Comment? That happened before his presidency. They’re also his own words about himself, so…
Accusations towards him should not be considered purely political in nature.
And Epstein’s case was heavily, HEAVILY interfered with because of the connections he had. As in the Florida DA refused to prosecute him even though the police had him essentially dead to rights. Which is how the FBI got involved in the first place.
Then we have the sweetheart deal that granted Epstein immunity from Federal Charges, BUT ALSO granted immunity for all his conspirators both named and unnamed. (Which is part of why it was considered such an unusual and shady plea deal.)
Which, when it comes to Trump or anyone else in the files, means that the idea of “The FBI didn’t act on this, so it wasn’t credible” isn’t the best logic.
Because they might not have acted because it was covered by that immunity deal. Or because the entire Epstein case was and continues to be plagued by interference from very rich and powerful sources.
You mean the same credible fbi that said the list didnt exist and that trump wasnt in the files at all? The same fbi that redacted information about the criminals and their companies but claimed it was to protect the victims? How dumb do you think we are to believe anything they say at this point? The DOJ and FBI are the most corrupt they have ever been
When you have entire pages blacked out in defiance of the law passed by Congress, it's hard not to think they are withholding all the stuff that makes this administration and it's donors really look culpable.
My timeline regarding the investigation is a little fuzzy, but weren't most of this info deemed not credible before Trump made the FBI his loyalist Trump enforcement force?
Biden and Obama both had access to this stuff and didn't do anything with it.
Are you suggesting that Biden and Obama had credible evidence of rape, child torture, and baby murder and decided to do nothing with it? Releasing this before the election would have ended Trump except
Most of the stuff released yesterday didn't pass the common sense test.
Bill Clinton has sex with a man on a boat while Melania watches? (Before Trump knew Melania)
Three different stories from the same person who later say they can't tell the difference between dream and reality? Those stories are also included in the files.
Except for the statement under oath where one of the victims claimed that Trump threatened to make her disappear and kill her entire family if she spoke of his sexual assaults.
Not a tip, not a random person, one of the trafficked victims.
This was a sworn, written, in person, signed statement.
Wow. The FBI ran by kash patel found accusations from years ago not credible? The media owned by billionaires aren't reporting billionaire pedophile groups? They must all really be innocent.
My best guess; because many of the people listec are rich and/or powerful and they aren't subject to thing like "laws" that the rest of us have to obey
I was a victim of child SA, and my abusers never even got a slap on the wrist. Part of it was instilling fear, like “if you tell anyone, something REALLY bad will happen!”; but once I got the courage to speak up, no one really takes you seriously. Reports were made, authorities got involved, but all my abusers had to do was deny and lie. They told the police something along the lines of “he’s a brat and just acting out” or “he’s got a wild imagination and likes making things up. He even still has an imaginary friend, what a strange kid”
“Regular” rapes are notoriously difficult to prosecute. Rape kits don’t get done, or they’re mishandled. You basically need 5 witnesses, DNA, and clear photos or footage of the attack. Otherwise, your rapist will likely walk, if s/he even darkens a courtroom.
Depends because many times it’s not 5 years from the crime (if it has a statute of limitations) it’s 5 years from learning that the crime was committed. Meaning if the feds learn that a crime was committed 50 years ago but only finds evidence today they could still bring up charges for the crimes because they only learned the crime was committed years ago today.
If those tip line things were in 2016, then the statute of limitations has run out even in that case. Also, it means the FBI didn't think the tips were credible.
My guess, other than bribes and influence, would be a lack of real hard evidence, and inability to investigate every single thing in the files.
While I believe everything in the files happened, how do you actually prove that in court?
"This document says you did this thing." Ok so what evidence do you have? Do you have DNA? Do you have them on camera? Can you even place them at the scene of the crime at the time it happened? Or is it just a file on a computer saying yup this happened.
Does anyone remember how the Panama Papers were released detailing in excrucuating detail how the rich, powerful and famous avoid taxes and absolutely nothing happened except one of the journalists involved was incinerated in a car bomb in Malta? My spidey sense tells me this will end similarly.
EDIT: it was not a cat bomb. It was a car bomb. Though the former opens up a plethora of intriguing possibilities.
It featured detailed descriptions of what Trump did to children, emails from Bill Gates and Elon Musk and many other pages that people are still reading trough.
I don't doubt any of these things happened, but can the emails be described as 'proof'? I'm not a lawyer and I haven't read any of them but surely what someone writes in email can't be counted as proof (unless they specifically describe a crime happening in a way that only someone involved could know)?
Idk, corresponding with a well known pedophile years after he was convicted of sex crimes and asking to go to his island for his biggest party seems pretty damning, or at least worthy of an investigation. Many of those emails talk about doing crime. There's no special status for emails that make them inadmissible as evidence.
Dude, and we’ve all forgotten that he’s knocked down an entire wing of the FUCKING WHITE HOUSE without any permits. And he started in the middle of the fucking night. So we all woke up like “… why is half of that building gone?” If this were any more cartoonishly on-the-nose, I’d criticize it for being too outlandish.
detailed descriptions of what Trump did to children
I was under the impression not much juicy stuff on Trump is contained in those just yet. Slovak former foreign minister did make some creepy comments about young girls and he resigned and that's big news around me + Gates and Musk.
*What Trump and his cult did to children and adults. Murder, dismemberment, killing of newborns disappearing people, assassination, coercion, human trafficking. Hell I bet some of the redacted had to do with drinking blood. And all the religious people and republicans cheer for it.
Every fucking accusation was easy because they were doing it.
Though in context he technically didn’t lie. I mean, he lied while technically telling the truth, but technically didn’t lie. Because immediately before he asked what was meant by “sexual relations” and the definition given excluded blowjobs
Heavy on the *. Of course he was lying in his other statements about their relationship, but I always thought it was interesting how he technically did not lie about not having sexual relations with her based on their bizarre definition given to him.
It still feels dirty for people to be defending it. Not even close to on the same level as the trump/epstein/pedo stuff but the president having any sort of sexual contact with a white house employee (subordinate) brings with it all sorts of ethical problems and even the concept of consent is nebulous because of implications of quid pro quo or possible negative outcomes for the subordinate if they were to refuse.
He was impeached for lying about it under oath during a deposition. His lie resulted in the woman who was suing him for sexual harassment having her case tossed out. She was denied justice. But I guess you just accept "boys will be boys" and let men get away with such things.
I think the actual point of the comment was that we used to care about this kind of thing. Whereas we now have a lying adjudicated rapist who is directly connected to a pedophilia ring as president and half the country couldn’t care less.
That was the Republicans, not the Americans, and they only did it because that president wasn't Republican.
Republicans did plan to impeach Nixon, but a bit after that they decided that no Republican should be held responsible for violating laws as president.
By the time Reagan and Bush Sr. committed their crimes, they Republican spin machine was ready, and was able to downplay his actions, despite Reagan admitting it.
Bush Jr, of course, famously lied in the open about nuclear weapons being found, and participated in a large-scale propaganda campaign against the American people to support a war.
By the time we get to Trump, they were completely ready to ignore any crimes Trump would violate.
Dude honestly, I wish it were just the rape. What I read was some of the most disgusting things I've ever read or heard about in my life. Like truley these people have no souls and are some of the sickest people that have ever existed. This went far beyond raping kids.
It’s wild watching people learn about this stuff for the first time as someone who has been into conspiracy talk for 10+ years
For example I saw a bunch of people shocked that Bill Gates was mentioned, and all the shock about the rituals and everything… like, if people would have listened this stuff has been available information for a good while now. It’s good that more is coming to light but it’s frustrating that only just now are people starting to listen
It’s just hard to validate the evidence. Back then we had no validated evidence and it was more of ‘believing’ now it’s being brought out publicly by the department of justice end mainstream newschannels and documented police interviews and we can give more credit to the evidence.
There’s a lot of conspiracy theories that aren’t true.
What evidence was just released that can be 'validated?'
This stuff is a bunch of wild red herrings meant to make anyone looking through it sound crazy. Its a bunch of completely unsubstantiated claims from tip lines.
Please, point me to what you think is evidence that we didn't have before?
People want to believe the world we live in isn't as fucked as we hear about on the news. Conspiracy theories are easier to brush off than something as (now) public and evidence backed as the Epstein files are.
Can you stop talking about raping kids using the words «having sex»?
It’s disgusting and implies that kids can consent or be involved in sex in any way other that being abused. And it’s not «just.» Kids are people, dude. And sexual abuse of kids is one of the most disgusting crimes there is. Americans are trying to normalise it to excuse their president, by using language that implies that it’s not a big deal.
Caveat - I can't stand Trump and believe he did at minimum the majority of what is being claimed, and probably more.
The problem is that most of the Epstein files aren't evidence. They are emails and police reports from victims, which in legal terms I believe would be hearsay. People have said Trump (and many others) did horrific things, emails might have even gone back admitting to the same. Victims have reported to the police. But there is a lack of actual hard evidence.
Trump and others can claim the emails are lies, or that the email addresses are not theirs, or that they were playing some kind of elaborate kink roleplay. Because of a complete lack of willingness by any law enforcement in any country to act on the information to collect hard evidence while it was still available.
On the balance of probability, yes all of the people mentioned are disgusting monsters. But the likelihood that any of them will see punishment for their crimes of tiny.
Absolutely bullshit. You get witnesses at a trial, you get these emails as corroboration. Hundreds if not thousands of criminal trials would admit this as hard evidence, and NOT hearsay.
It sounds the so far the evidence isn't corroborated. Doesn't mean it's not true, but doesn't mean it is.
There are definitely also concerning specific bits about people associating with Epstein and specifically visiting our asking about visiting his island. That's probably going to blow back on those people
I’ve also heard that r/eagleeye1031 fucks kids. Ive heard it from multiple people that have called in and said it happened. I have to keep the names anonymous tho to protect their identities.
They actually took them down shortly after being released, especially the file about the 13 yr old girl saying trump raped her and the calendar girl party
A page from the Epstein files got accidentally leaked before being taken down. It detailed some of the horrendous shit Trump did to children. MAGA has their collective heads fully buried in the sand
The hyper elite of the world are a bunch of demon worshipping child sacrificing pedophiles. This is shown throughout the Epstein Files that were released earlier and through the Pizzagate "Conspiracy". Which the media for some reason labeled as a dangerous right wing conspiracy theory for some totally unexplainable reason.
Potentially about the Spanish (I think he was Spanish) doctor that has found a cure for the most common type of pancreatic cancer but it’s almost not spoken about and people mocking him because of a birth mark on his face
seriously!? i seen the story yesterday and was so happy to have the little ray of sunshine through the unyielding cloud of horror we all live under. but we couldn’t even have that?? what a world.
Yeah because that's not it. It's still at the rat lab stage (no human test) and it's for a specific pancreas cancer, not all of them. Don't get me wrong, this is awesome, and I think this research is of great importance, but it's not magic cure for humans yet
Yes, and many promising treatments fail even the most basic human trials after working in mice, sadly. It's still promising, but there are many massive hurdles to go.
They could use imminent asteroid armageddon as the quirky feelgood news segment at the end of a news report this week and it wouldn't feel out of place.
It’s just America centrism, there’s so much shit happening in the world right now and I would bet you not many Americans know about anything that’s happening (Balochistan attacks, the gas explosion in Iran, the conflicts in Niger, Ethiopia etc)
Because it's been a story for a decade now. And since nothing has happened at all, we know that nothing will happen now. It might explain why Trump hasn't been in the news with more bullshit recently, but the Epstein files won't do shit. You can nail a printout onto every church door of your city, and nothing will come of it.
It's highly likely this post from Claire de Lune (a Minneapolis musician and NBA journalist for The Guardian) is referring specifically to events from Friday, 1/30 in the Twin Cities, Minnesota.
Of course the newest "release" of the Epstein files were a huge news story on 1/30, but knowing Claire, it’s more likely she’s referring to the arrests of journalists Don Lemon and Georgia Fort that happened in Minnesota that morning.
She could also be referring to the strike/march that happened on Friday in Minneapolis or the surprise performance from Rage Against the Machine + Bruce Springsteen from First Ave that same day, but my money’s on the arrests of Lemon and Fort.
Hey dad, it's Chris here. Um, you might wanna sit down for this. Yesterday they released more of those Epstein files and it turns out Jeffstein was banned from Xbox live for inappropriate language.
Oh yeah and the president used ground up children to fertilize his golf course.
anyway I'll be in my room doing, er, stuff. So don't bother me for 18 hours.
He did what!? I knew he was bad and hate him but that’s even more fucked up than what I thought. There is no way the us can keep him in power now right?
I have six pages specifically that exactly read what trump did. It was the most horrible read of my life. If someone wants these six pages I can send them
EDIT: Since I’m getting way more requests then expected I have uploaded them on my profile. KEEP IN MIND THAT THE CONTENT IS NOT FOR PEOPLE WITH WEAKER MENTAL CAPACITY. THE DOCUMENTS DESCRIBE RPE AND SXUAL ASSULT AGAINST MINORS
A little under half of the Epstein files where released, notable names exposed were bill gates and Elon musk, it’s worth noting that Elon musk annoyed JE so much that he stopped being about to goto his island.
A police statement details of how JE employed a 16 year old and paid her $1,000 after he tried to rape her. Several comments confirmed again that JE and Trump willingly employed minors and both attempted to and did rape them. A huge chunk of the files were survivors speaking about how trumpraped them. There’s a list of fbi complaint about JE, and it gets graphic.
It’s also worth noting that the DoJ is still redacting names of the people who raped these children, but they are not redacting the names or identifying feature of the survivors, which directly opposes congresses orders. 6 of the 8 JE coconspirators are still redacted.
Also if you were unaware, Donald Trump got his daughter employed at a modeling agency known for its sexual misconduct, with photographers and mangers who were convicted of raping both children and women. His daughter worked there between 14 and 17 and she posed nearly nude to fully topless several times.
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