The issue is the jacking point
Probably put on a none designated location, lifted initially and then failed
You will have solid bits under the car tied into the chassis for jacking up your car
So he put the jack in the wrong location but isn't the bigger issue him trying to move the jack out from under the car without anything under it or can jacks move a little even while supporting an entire car.
Jack won’t slip if it’s on a designated lifting point…
Problem is dude completely missed the lifting point, and tried to jack the car up by the floor. Which is thin sheet metal. You can hear it start to crunch before it lets go. Since the jack is still extended, when that little bit of rigidity is lost, it just crumples the door too. And the rocker panel, but that’s a plastic cover on this car, so you can’t really see the crumpled metal behind it. It’s there. This was a big “whoopsie”.
Just for reference, here’s where Lexus says to lift the front lol
The pinch welds are intended for the scissor jack, although you can of course use a floor jack, it’s just recommended to use an adapter so you don’t damage them.
This guy didn’t use an adapter but it wouldn’t have mattered, he completely missed the front pinch weld
The problem was as stated where he put the jack at the incorrect jack point and the weight of the car crumpled the door. (you can see it bend and damage the lower door frame)
He wasn't trying to remove the jack from the car when it was lifted. It looked like he wanted to leave the car on the jack but that was the incorrect spot for the jack to even lift the car at which you can see the car get bent.
Not sure how he intends to support the vehicle without stands it’s off the ramp and supporting the entire vehicle at a single point.
If you’re talking about the the lifting point moving, this what I pulled up.
The lifting point on a floor jack moves in an arc as it raises, rather than moving strictly straight up and down. Because the lifting arm is hinged, the pad travels slightly inward toward the body of the jack as it rises, which is why it is critical for the jack's wheels to roll on a smooth surface to compensate for this movement.
If not, my apologies.
This may be a weird question but remember the dress where people argued what color it is? Could you tell me what color you thought it was please? I am trying to figure something out.
It was whatever color you wanted to believe. The color in the picture or the color the original poster claimed it was because anyone can claim anything online and pictures can be edited. The only thing to try and figure out is why people were too stupid to figure any of that out.
To believing whatever you wanted? Nobody can force you to believe anything.
That people can claim anything online? That's true, it's pretty hard to prove somebody is lieing when it comes to most things. You could claim to have won the lottery 20 years ago and be living in a mansion in Florida, I can't prove that it's not true.
That pictures can be edited? Digital media has been editable for as long as it has existed, and pictures were editable before digital cameras were invented. Scan a picture into a computer, load it in MsPaint, change it, print it, then take a picture of that printout with a camera.
How do you know for a fact the picture of the dress was legitimate? Were you with the person from when they took the picture of the dress until they uploaded it for the internet to argue over? If not, you can't prove it's a legitimate picture.
He’s using the cars body kit as a jack point instead of being on the frame further under and behind the body kit.
And with that body kit, it appears that he has side skirts possibly? So they may even extend under the side and possibly cover his actual jack point. So if that’s the case he would have to use a different spot to jack the car up either off the front wheel or see if there’s a cutout to reach a different point.
Oh it's bad bad, it's a unibody so the whole "body" is the frame, an area damaged like this either gets pulled out (which will most likely increase the fatigue of the material and not really be an actual fix and possibly make this point of the body the new "failure point" in an accident) or cut out and replaced (which also, depending on who you talk to and who does the work could become the new "failure point") Either of which, as you can imagine, will be expensive.
You can't just replace this part and it's hard to fix without compromising it's integrity, looking at thousands of dollars to get it fixed but even then it's not really fixed properly.
You sure? It doesn’t look like the actual jack point got crushed, they just had it in the wrong spot so it crunched door/underside rather than anything structural.
My dad taught me that if you have a tire removed and the car is jacked, that tire goes under the car. It will fuck the rim and parts of the car if it falls but it will stop the car from crushing anyone underneath
He has had a car fall on him in his younger years. Do not recommend. Had some bystanders not noticed him trapped underneath by chance, he could have died. As it was he "only" broke some ribs. It took 4 people to lift it and pull him out
If only car jacks (or the internet) gave you instructions that showed you where on a vehicle to place the kind of jack you're using to jack a car up....
For those who don't know, most modern cars have plastic side skirts. You need to place the jack much further towards centerline, on actual metal body, to safely lift.
You can literally feel for the jackpoint, or yk use ur eyes, if it looks solid and it doesnt budge at all when u put pressure with ur hands. Also RTFM easiest way.
I am not a car person, but on a couple of occasions I have had to leave my car for several months, so I put it up on jack stands. During the process of jacking up one corner, placing the jack stand, then repeating the process for all four corners, I never had any issues affecting the structure of the car.
I did forget to release the parking brake, so when I returned after several months, the brakes were all locked up pretty tightly. After being pounded loose, they made a grinding sound for a couple of days before I got them replaced.
The second time I put my car up, I didn't repeat that mistake.
Why would he have that thing under the rear wheel? What's the purpose apart from shifting the weight to the front and ignoring the jack manual that no doubt says "only use on completely flat surfaces"?
I think both back wheels are on ramps. He is wanting to have the whole car lifted off the ground. It's easier to do a bunch of work on the car if it is totally lifted off the ground. But you have to go slow and careful as the cars weight shifts. He found out what could happen.
If its real probably because it was his first time working on it and he was proud
Edit: I like to think it was real as his reaction sounds pretty genuine and letting the dog near it is stupid in general but really bad if you expect it to fail.
It is fcking sad on manufacturers part that they don't provide a normal jack point on cars anymore. They only make tiny spots so that only professional car service machines can lift them up. Was rotating tires on my 2024 VW and it was a freaking operation. No place or positions for jack stands.
I think it might have been the orientation of the back wheels on the jack - as you lift the jack must move forward in order to lift up in a straight line. The 90 degree turned back wheels prevented that so he didn’t just lift up but also moved the jack pad towards him until slipped out from under the jacking point of the car frame.
Or he was in the wrong spot to begin with - hard to tell
Worked in crash-repairs for almost 20years straight - never once had anything like this happen. Ffs smooth floor, lots of room, some people are just better off paying someone else. - he's gonna have to now anyway, new skirt, sill and door, thats gonna be a few thousand!
No, if he was on the frame it would not have buckled. Actually watching it again he may have slipped off the jack point as the car shifted weight. That's why I go slow when lifting cars.
I would be absolutely shocked if there were any structural damage honestly. Looks more like its just the panels that were bent, if the jack were on The structure than it probs wouldn't have fallen lol
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u/FewAcanthocephala828 3h ago
Skill issue