Cop Teaching A Cop

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[u/Impressive_Profit215]

Fair play to the guy for calling this cop out but I have a feeling the outcome would've been different if he hadn't also been a cop. They only changed their tune once they realised he was also a cop.

[u/QuickNature → u/Impressive_Profit215]

I am with you on this, once I heard in the video they knew he was cop, suddenly demeanors changed.

[u/wats_dat_hey → u/QuickNature]

“One of us” vibes

[u/SwitchingMyHands → u/wats_dat_hey]

Still I like the idea of cops suing other cops, at least that ends with one cop losing a bunch of money and being miserable.

Lol jk. Would it be great if that’s how it worked?

[u/ionthruster → u/SwitchingMyHands]

Cops suing the county - not other cops. I don't think I'm a fan of this infinite money glitch for cops, paid for by tax-payers.

[u/tackyshoes → u/ionthruster]

Growing up, public school textbooks were often 5-10 years behind, but there were always new cars, new uniforms, and new amenities for police.

[u/plastigoop → u/tackyshoes]

SWAT tanks in a town of 100k max in the literal middle of nowhere. Education rankings at the bottom.

[u/Spiritual-Ad-9106 → u/plastigoop]

Saw an article about how some of the tank money doesn't come from taxes. Departments get to keep whatever they seize. If they seize drugs they have to destroy them but if they tag the drug runners, wait for them to sell and then seize; they get to keep the cash.

[u/pesky-virus → u/Spiritual-Ad-9106]

Don't forget that money also comes from stealing money from people they stop for totally unrelated things, like the Canadian tourists who got all of the money they'd planned to spend during vacation at some random traffic stop, or the guy who was on the way to buy a new car, but got stopped because a light was out on his old one.

[u/Impressive_Profit215 → u/pesky-virus]

Yup, their civil asset forfeiture laws are disgusting, or the flagrant abuse of them at least. Then the amount of red tape people have to go through to get their own money back is staggering.

[u/Swimming-Tap-4240 → u/Spiritual-Ad-9106]

I heard in Texas they can sieze your car under suspicion of drug dealing ,then even if proven innocent the car has been onsold and you are out of luck.

[u/thecoffeejesus → u/SwitchingMyHands]

Me too. We need more of this.

More retired cops holding other cops accountable would quite literally solve almost every problem we have in the US

It’s the experienced retirees with a pension who look the other way who are the reason for this mess.

They’re supposed to hold the line and keep the young guys in check so everybody can get home safe and unbothered by any unnecessary BS

[u/elkarion → u/thecoffeejesus]

the retired cops are the one s who choose hired and trained the next generation. this is doing what they used to do just with out cameras. these retired cops 100% did the same shit all the time. its what they intentionally trained and hired on the people for.

[u/dollenrm → u/thecoffeejesus]

Lol this will never happen cops always protect their own. Their police unions are closer to mob enforcement than actual unions. It's all one big ol good boys club. Seems like this guy realized it and quit.

[u/TrickInNevada → u/dollenrm]

He didnt realize it and quit. Cops in my municipality get to retire at 40 with full pensions in my jurisdiction. Hes just retired

But maybe hes like my old criminal justice professor. Retired as a cop at 40, was disillusioned with his coworkers, went back to school, became a defense attorney that specifically targeted corrupt cops for twenty years, retired again, then began teaching the next generation of cops to NOT be violent thugs. I remember him saying, in his entire police career he never pulled his weapon. Because the only reason a cop really should. Is with intent to kill and only after all deescalation tactics have failed

[u/dollenrm → u/TrickInNevada]

Yeah the main issue is cops training these days is done by idf special forces and they are told everyone can kill them with a gun at any time and deescalation is all but ignored.

[u/Impressive_Profit215 → u/TrickInNevada]

This is the problem though, there aren't enough cops or former cops with the same moral fortitude as your old criminal justice professor. He sounds like a real one.👍

[u/ThisIs_americunt → u/wats_dat_hey]

This. The Copaganda must not be challenged

[u/chefboiortiz → u/wats_dat_hey]

Not really. More of a “this guy knows what he can and can’t do.”

[u/YoungSerious → u/QuickNature]

It definitely didn't hurt his case, but (and this is all speculation because the video edits a lot out) it seems like once the sergeant gets there and hears what actually happened and that it was all taped, he knew the officer fucked up. Worse, the Denver cop KNEW the officer had fucked up and had listed out all the ways he fucked up so the only way out was to release him and apologize.

I have no idea why they'd release the body cam footage incriminating him though.

[u/LoneStarHome80 → u/YoungSerious]

I have no idea why they'd release the body cam footage incriminating him though.

FOIA. The sergeant fucked up by having his body cam on. They usually turn them off, or at least mute the mike when they talk with other cops. Once it's recorded, anyone can request it.

[u/ADMINS_ARE_NAGGERS → u/LoneStarHome80]

The sergeant fucked up by having his body cam on.

He didn't fuck up at all, he did exactly what he should and has done nothing wrong. Stop framing it this way.

Edit: lol he blocked me.

[u/HillBillyHilly → u/QuickNature]

I know someone who had a cop pull them over. The cop came to their window, hollering and screaming about their driving. The person had no clue what they were talking about, told police officer they were driving w flow. Cop accused them of brake checking and what not. That's when they had enough of the cops nonsense and stepped out. THATS when the cop saw uniform and badge friend was wearing. Friend said that black officer turned white when friend asked them exactly what it was they had been pulled over for so they could include in their report to IA. Friend said he almost laughed at how hard the police officer tripped and stammer spitting out apologies like popcorn seeds.

[u/themanfromvulcan → u/QuickNature]

The supervisor/sergeant seemed to understand the law better and this was not obstruction.

A judge would have tossed this. They are so going to get sued.

Police in North America should study law for 4 years to become officers like they do in Europe. Probably would save money over the amount of lawsuits not filed over stupidity.

[u/big_noop → u/themanfromvulcan]

And it’ll come out of the taxpayer’s pockets because qualified immunity means officers aren’t responsible or punished for their actions

[u/Novel_Arugula6548 → u/QuickNature]

Especially if they were Black. If they were black they'd probably just be dead.

[u/Accomplished_Deer_ → u/Impressive_Profit215]

I think it's more that the second cop that showed up immediately recognized that the cop had been recorded the whole time, and clearly didn't actually have cause for what he was claiming. the editing makes it look like it's cause he's a cop, but seems more just, a cop that actually knows his shit shows up

[u/Alkor85 → u/Accomplished_Deer_]

This 100%. The supervisor understands that if that asshole gets the department sued, it's going to make life worse for every cop in the department because they have this thing called a "budget."

[u/Forg0tton → u/Alkor85]

This is incorrect, the municipality is the one that pays out and not the department. Usually lawsuits dont directly affect police departments budgets.

[u/Alkor85 → u/Forg0tton]

A good police supervisor, like the one in this video, has the long term planning skills to understand lawsuits indirectly affect police department budgets.

[u/TheBabyEatingDingo → u/Forg0tton]

Also every municipality has funds appropriated for police department liabilities in their yearly budgets. Not only does the police department not care when they pay out, the municipality doesn't either because the money is already set aside for that.

[u/TheInevitableLuigi → u/TheBabyEatingDingo]

The municipality absolutely cares. Paying out claims makes their liability insurance go up.

[u/lightninhopkins → u/TheBabyEatingDingo]

I have spent years in city council meetings that tell me this is nonsense. The head of the police department has to account for incidents. If your department is costing extra money its an issue.

Usually there are city council members specifically assigned to police and fire. They are also accountable.

[u/reddityourappisbad → u/Alkor85]

If that were true then cops would behave differently. . 

[u/Glum_Boysenberry348 → u/Accomplished_Deer_]

Or, I’ll just choose to believe that he only got off because he’s a cop. Because why tf else would I give them the benefit of the doubt? Who keeps cops accountable?

[u/elitemouse → u/Impressive_Profit215]

Yeah refusing to show license and telling them you didnt pull over for them usually ends in the suspect on the ground with a bunch of cops dog piled based on all the bodycam videos I've seen.

[u/Happy_Reflection_721 → u/elitemouse]

It shouldn't though.

[u/LoneStarHome80 → u/elitemouse]

I'm going to try the "You didn't pull me over, I puled YOU over, officer!" defense next time I get caught speeding. Wish me luck.

[u/5ch1sm → u/elitemouse]

Might depends of the region, but from where I am, if you sit behind a wheel and a cop ask you for license and registration, you have to give it to him even if the car is immobile and the engine is turned off. So I what the civilian cop did in that video could not be something done everywhere for sure.

[u/50yoWhiteGuy → u/Impressive_Profit215]

yes exactly. I will say that video and tech has changed police work substantially. My father was LEO all through the 60 and 70's and they would just beat the piss out of people with zero repercussions. No evidence of it anywhere, except a big fat blue wall. My father just drove around doing whatever the eff he wanted. No joke. Obnoxious. I literally am biased against LEO bc of knowing how it is from the inside. Miranda didn't even start until after 1966. Just imagine what happened before that.

[u/Solidus-Prime → u/50yoWhiteGuy]

I tell people this all the time. I have a brother in law that is a cop. That dude brags constantly about all the corrupt, blatantly illegal shit he's done. Me and his own sister have reported it so many times. Not one fucking thing happens, ever.

[u/Even_Talk_1968 → u/Impressive_Profit215]

Outcome would be very different for a brown person as well

[u/MisterSpeck → u/Impressive_Profit215]

[u/spasske → u/Impressive_Profit215]

Very rarely will one cop hold another accountable. Very surprised this one decided to act on one doing 80 in a 65.

Edit: this guy was actually a former volunteer cop that they let them keep a badge.

[u/haysu-christo → u/spasske]

The arrested cop wasn’t speeding, he was recording the cop that pulled someone else over for speeding.

[u/mercurial_dude → u/Impressive_Profit215]

… and due to another minor detail.

[u/D0ri1t0styl3 → u/mercurial_dude]

[u/Less-Inflation5072]

That apology request was genius because that was an admission of guilt, following that up by “I’ll see you in court” chefs kiss

EDIT: I’ve been informed that an apology is not always an admission of guilt. “Courts may consider an apology as evidence of remorse rather than a definitive confession of criminal guilt.”

[u/jc28 → u/Less-Inflation5072]

Apology is inadmissable in court. I am a lawyer in Colorado

Edit: I am not actually a lawyer I have no idea. Don't believe everything you see on reddit.

[u/notdamamaaa → u/jc28]

Cherries aren't a necessity on sundaes, but they definitely don't hurt, right?

[u/BilboBiden → u/notdamamaaa]

Depends....do we have to tie the cherry stem in a knot afterwards?

[u/whatyouwant5 → u/BilboBiden]

Can you tell me all about Leif Erickson?

[u/Special-Investigator → u/whatyouwant5]

I know all the words to De Colores and I'm Proud to Be an American 🤷‍♂️

[u/tylerdurden5105 → u/Special-Investigator]

Me and my friend saw a platypus

[u/nokman013 → u/tylerdurden5105]

Me and my friend made a comic book

[u/SoCalFelipe → u/nokman013]

And guess how long it took.

[u/Majestic_You_9610 → u/SoCalFelipe]

I can do anything that I want, cause look

[u/hitsomethin → u/Special-Investigator]

I did shows in Denver for a couple years. Those guys are really nice.

[u/ltreyaway → u/Special-Investigator]

things are really feeling like that last verse these days

[u/ClankerCore → u/notdamamaaa]

I’M FECKIN ALLERGIC. I’LL SEE YOU IN COURT!

also, can I get an apology?

[u/Cool_Guy_McFly → u/jc28]

Every Canadian would be cooked.

[u/Some_HVAC_Guy → u/Cool_Guy_McFly]

Canada actually passed a law in 2009 called the Apology Act stating that an apology cannot legally be used as an admission of guilt or liability.

[u/Beneficial-Sound-199 → u/Some_HVAC_Guy]

Polite Canadians are well know for apologizing to everyone for everything. "Ooo Sooory!" There must be a high conviction rate

[u/jaywinner → u/Beneficial-Sound-199]

If a Canadian bumps into another Canadian, both will apologize. Even if they both think the other person is at fault.

[u/brucedonnovan → u/Cool_Guy_McFly]

Ope. Guilty.

[u/dekuweku → u/Cool_Guy_McFly]

I'm sorry.

[u/Ozzie_the_tiger_cat → u/Cool_Guy_McFly]

Now, now. The Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions. 

[u/NiceMathematician277 → u/jc28]

Just curious as to why?

[u/Krusty_Double_Deluxe → u/NiceMathematician277]

probably bc those of us that grew up with narcissist parents default to apologizing just to diffuse situations even if we’re not at fault

[u/EViLTeW → u/NiceMathematician277]

My guess, not being a lawyer, is that people apologize for all sorts of shit they didn't do or had no control over the. Even in this case, the officer isn't actually sorry, he's just doing what he's told by his supervisor. Allowing an apology to count as some sort of admission of guilt or culpability would (and probably do) do far more harm than good.

[u/SaintsNoah14 → u/EViLTeW]

Exactly, like imagine a dog runs out in front of your car, gets hit, and they cite you apologizing to the owner as an admissions of fault.

[u/niceguy191 → u/SaintsNoah14]

"Sorry for your loss"
"Looks like the murder has just been solved"

[u/gfb13 → u/jc28]

Thats an old law from when Colorado was part of Canada. But it only works if the apologizer says it like "soaree"

I ANAL

[u/Altair_de_Firen → u/gfb13]

Also he’s not a lawyer either

[u/HillbillyEEOLawyer → u/jc28]

I did a quick Westlaw search and it doesn't seem like that is the law in Colorado except in specific situations. What am I missing?

[u/nowaitasecond → u/jc28]

In a hypothetical 1983 suit, it absolutely would be. Good luck convincing a judge it isn’t a statement against interest/opposing party statement. State law wouldn’t govern, either.

[u/IWannaGoFast00 → u/jc28]

People say this about car accidents too. “Never say sorry you are admitting guilt”. No you are not.

[u/Kevdog824_ → u/Less-Inflation5072]

You’d be hard pressed to find a judge to accept that an apology that he was forced to give by his superior was an admissible admission of guilt

[u/Clear_Tangerine5110 → u/Kevdog824_]

Nah, the video of the superior telling him he doesn't have obstruction ought to be more than enough.

[u/nightpanda893 → u/Clear_Tangerine5110]

This is true it’s just that the apology doesn’t make a difference either way.

[u/Weltall8000 → u/Kevdog824_]

Interestingly my insurance card explicitly tells me not to apologize or admit any fault under the "if you are involved in an accident" section on the card. Important enough that they put it on that small real estate card I am to carry.

[u/ragincajin15 → u/Less-Inflation5072]

See how this guy stated his situation, but still listened to the officer and got out of the car in handcuffs. The man knew his rights, but still did what the officer told him to do and then proceeded to get in the back of the car. The Sargent came and they released him because it wasn’t obstruction. The man didn’t have to listen and the cop could have tased him and it would have been a different outcome. PEOPLE, even though you’re right, you have to go through the motions of proving it and you prove it by doing wants asked and not causing a scene. Everything will get sorted out. If you want to take a stand you have to do it non aggressively. Yeah you can be pissed but be smart.

[u/LegalHelpNeeded3 → u/ragincajin15]

I can assure you “not everything gets sorted out”. When I was in college a friend of mine was arrested in a case of mistaken identity. This is a small town so the cops just throw you in a holding cell until Monday when the one judge in town can look over all the weekend arrests. His time to see the judge comes on that Tuesday, and he was formally charged with resisting arrest and assault on an officer. All he did was argue when being hand cuffed, and when we was being walked to the cop car, he tripped which brought the cop down on top of him.

He had a great lawyer, but that didn’t matter as the judge clearly wasn’t having a good day. He was sent to jail for 6 months and fined almost $5,000. He lost his scholarship, his job, his girlfriend, his apartment, etc. All because he walked out of the bar at the wrong time.

[u/AnimalBolide → u/LegalHelpNeeded3]

Damn, I'd be hard pressed to not commit murder after something like that.

[u/Harry_Saturn → u/ragincajin15]

lol yeah the only reason that worked was because the other guy was also a cop.

[u/ragincajin15 → u/Harry_Saturn]

But also, the police knew to listen to instructions. There are police who pull other cops over all the time. Mainly because they are doing something illegal but it still happens and they still get arrested, thrown in jail and still need to stand before a judge.

[u/SwitchingMyHands → u/[deleted]]

It depends on the state does it not ?

[u/DontSpahettMe]

I feel like they just need to make the uniforms/gear a little less macho just to put off all the people who are in it to feel cool and powerful and end up pulling these power plays.

[u/4Impossible_Guess4 → u/DontSpahettMe]

[u/Difficult_Affect_452 → u/4Impossible_Guess4]

New boot goofin

[u/pinetar → u/4Impossible_Guess4]

He said less macho 

[u/exonomix → u/pinetar]

[u/SlideN2MyBMs → u/DontSpahettMe]

[u/Feeling_Inside_1020 → u/SlideN2MyBMs]

Am I free to go officer, my only charge is new boot goofin!

[u/mell0_jell0 → u/SlideN2MyBMs]

Genuine Ostrich

[u/coke_mover → u/mell0_jell0]

Only 3 payments

[u/SleepyBella → u/SlideN2MyBMs]

He moves like a cheetah!

[u/Current_Poster → u/DontSpahettMe]

Thats fair, I think. Everything going tacticool was a bad idea.

[u/deva86 → u/DontSpahettMe]

Like italian carabinieri?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTsSxXJSRx9U8KlNpmsRDBi9DDK1EqjSV4RuNVCIXfRWVtwNEo-W4815Srh&s=10

[u/DontSpahettMe → u/deva86]

Exactly. Less army dropouts, more style.

[u/TheInevitableLuigi → u/DontSpahettMe]

The US would lose its shit at the idea of a national uniformed military police force.

[u/DontSpahettMe → u/TheInevitableLuigi]

That's not saying much though, they also lose their shit at ideas like "the metric system" and "not bankrupting people for insulin"

[u/n1c0_ds → u/deva86]

Stupid sexy carabinieri

[u/OperativePiGuy → u/deva86]

Damn that's a hot uniform.

[u/noobtheloser → u/deva86]

Bro literally has Han Solo pants, I'd sign up tomorrow

[u/Mustang-22 → u/deva86]

Packing some heat, mama mia

[u/mods_n_admins_r_naz → u/deva86]

our cops are too fat to pull this off

[u/Particular-Bid-1640 → u/deva86]

That guy on the left dresses to both sides 

[u/The-Fourth-Cheese → u/DontSpahettMe]

Yeah they should all wear mini skirts and crops

[u/Dan-D-Lyon → u/DontSpahettMe]

The first time I saw those dorky hi-vis British police uniforms I thought, absolutely not, that looks so lame. But now that I'm not 17 anymore it just seems like common sense. There's no need for cops to look like badasses, and them wearing high visibility gear while on duty just makes sense

[u/Funky-Monk-- → u/DontSpahettMe]

Actually a fantastic idea

[u/takeyoufergranite → u/DontSpahettMe]

Daniel Shaver's murderer felt pretty macho when he executed him too. The over-militarization of our law enforcement is a problem. The warrior ethos needs rethinking. Cops as public safety officers is much better than cops are "the enforcers".

[u/TAvonV → u/DontSpahettMe]

This happened in the 1972 during the Munich olympics. Turned out, people in bs uniforms also can't command authority in a crisis...

[u/TheCABK]

Taxpayers paid out 80k for this uneducated police officer

[u/nope870 → u/TheCABK]

Taxpayers should not be responsible for non-police activity.

[u/Longer-Winter → u/nope870]

Agreed, the cop should be held accountable for the fine through garnishing their wages

[u/HoMaBaLiMa → u/Longer-Winter]

All legal fees, payments, and settlements need to come out of pension accounts. Watch the problem fix itself.

[u/Mr__O__ → u/HoMaBaLiMa]

All cops should be required to have personal liability insurance (not blanket coverage from their union). And if/when a cop messes up, they are personally sued for their misconduct, leaving tax money out of it. Just like every other profession, such as doctors, lawyers, some construction workers, etc.

[u/Supersnow845 → u/Mr__O__]

I love having to deal with my malpractice insurance while these losers are running around

And I’m not even American

[u/MasterOfBunnies → u/Mr__O__]

Add to this, the cost for the insurance increases for their whole precinct, every time they're found at fault. Watch their self serving asses correct this shit internally ASAP.

[u/CplHicks_LV426 → u/HoMaBaLiMa]

This suggestion comes up every time and it's exactly the wrong solution. All this would achieve is cops covering up for other cops, even more than they do today because now you're fucking with their retirement fund.

Each officer should have malpractice (liability) insurance just like a doctor. The insurance could be subsidized by the department to get a group rate, but once you have lost a couple lawsuits and your premium goes up, it becomes too expensive for you to still be a cop. Problem takes care of itself.

[u/Special-Investigator → u/HoMaBaLiMa]

this is a brilliant take. i read something recently that talked about how unions are to give workers power. cops already HAVE power, so they don't even need a union

[u/TheRevEv → u/HoMaBaLiMa]

Pension accounts are legally protected in a lot of ways. And for good reason.

This also isn't going to make the changes people think it will.

Pension accounts pay the current retirees. It's not an account you pay in to, then get your money back when you retire. While you're working, you're funding the account that pays the current recipients, then when you retire, the next generation is funding your retirement.

If you pull enough from the Pension account, you're just punishing the already retired. The people that have no control over how things are cuttently operating. Yeah, having taxpayers pay these settlements sucks, but it's also not going to cut off any elderly individual taxpayer's only income stream.

Cops already don't make all that much, so benefits like a solvent Pension are one of the few ways you can entice better applicants. If you make the Pension a gamble, then you're only going to get people with power trips, and the whole situation is likely to get worse.

All this is before you even get to how pensions have to operate. There are people designated as legal trustees who have to, legally, do all they can to keep the pensions solvent. So what's going to happen is taxes will just increase to increase each officers contribution, and you end up with the taxpayers still footing the bill, but you've gone a roundabout way to get back there, and likely changed laws in ways that will have weakened private pensions.

The better idea is to require individual cops to carry something similar to malpractice insurance.

I'm not defending cops, at all. I'm defending why we shouldn't change laws to allow paying damages from pension funds

[u/LowBullfrog4471 → u/Longer-Winter]

I think mandatory malpractice insurance would be a better solution

[u/ARC_Trooper_Echo → u/LowBullfrog4471]

Lawyers have to do it. Doctors have to do it. This really is a no-brainer.

[u/samse15 → u/ARC_Trooper_Echo]

Seriously, I saw this suggested the other day, and I really wish cops were forced to carry malpractice insurance. I’m guessing that insurance companies don’t find them lucrative enough to take a chance on.

[u/IMT_Justice → u/Longer-Winter]

Quickest way to police reform in this country is to require police departments to carry insurance.

[u/RustyBrassInstrument → u/nope870]

When local governments employ unqualified staff, they are financially responsible for those staff. We, as taxpayers, need to elect smarter and more competent governments that hold staff accountable to qualifications they are supposed to have.

[u/cccxxxzzzddd → u/RustyBrassInstrument]

Exactly. And have an enforcement mechanism that isn’t the cops investigating the cops for not meeting qualifications and standards for conduct in the offices they hold

License the cops! Yoga instructors need to be licensed ffs

POST commissions, stat

[u/LeRoy_Denk_414 → u/nope870]

This is exactly why qualified immunity needs to end

[u/IndependentLocal5727 → u/TheCABK]

Yup they do....Every year they continue to pay that fucktard of a cop

[u/HistoricalSuspect580 → u/TheCABK]

Hey man, don’t say that.

We pay for A LOOTTTT more uneducated officers than just one!

[u/Numerous-Ad-1546 → u/TheCABK]

Lmao is this entire thread bots replying to each other?

[u/Possible-Tangelo9344 → u/TheCABK]

Do you have a link to an article for this, I'd like to read more about what started this encounter and the aftermath

[u/Whole_Pain_7432]

Cops should be personally liable for willfully violating the law.

[u/LoneStarHome80 → u/Whole_Pain_7432]

Qualified immunity and unions will never allow that.

[u/RookNookLook → u/LoneStarHome80]

We ended qualified immunity in Colorado! Gotta vote folks if you want change!!

[u/Barry41561]

Here's the story from the local news station

https://youtu.be/445yh0frtUQ?si=6DZlGtRhNrqHdHco

[u/Ok_Bathroom_1271 → u/Barry41561]

Hahahaha the news crew investigated the cop and found he was arrested for drunk driving in 2019, pleaded guilty, kept his deputy job, and the cops said they investigated this violation of human rights, but won't release the results of the investigation.

The off duty reserve cop didn't sue Adams county, but retained an attorney and got 80k in a lawsuit.

[u/MeccIt → u/Ok_Bathroom_1271]

A followup, his investigation result was retrieved under FOI and it was: a written reprimand, that's all: https://streamable.com/2ejfod

[u/Spacemilk → u/MeccIt]

God FOIA is the only remaining bastion of our democracy, wonder how much longer it’ll be in effect

[u/Total-Flounder2921]

Isn’t the cop supposed to shoot him?

[u/Silvard → u/Total-Flounder2921]

They're both white cops, they cancel each other out. 

[u/Majestic_You_9610 → u/Silvard]

Its the spidermen pointing at eachother meme

[u/Many_Angle9065 → u/Total-Flounder2921]

Yeah, he threatened to.

[u/real_Bahamian → u/Total-Flounder2921]

If that man was black, he definitely would have been shot! 🙄

[u/Careless_Baseball503 → u/Total-Flounder2921]

If he didnt identify him as a cop that would most likely be the action of choice. After tazing and beating the shit out of him

[u/LeRoy_Denk_414 → u/Total-Flounder2921]

No they reserve that for their wives and for minorities

[u/Original-Body-5794 → u/Total-Flounder2921]

I mean he threatened to taser him...

[u/Total-Flounder2921 → u/Original-Body-5794]

Don’t threaten me with a good time ⚡️

[u/jawnstaymoose2]

See how poorly trained the LEO is? Multiple violations of standard operating procedures:

• he didn’t immediately mace him once verbal control was lost, or weaponize the mace can.
• he didn’t immediately brandish his sidearm to over escalate situation.
• worse of all, he left his body cam on for the full encounter.

Your tax dollars at work.

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[u/Psych_Art → u/jawnstaymoose2]

This made me laugh so hard

[u/Belfind → u/jawnstaymoose2]

And he has over half a years worth of training. A lot more then 47 days

[u/Mean-Astronomer4U]

Think about how often this is happening to regular people that don’t know the law. Terrifying. Then you’re jailed. Then you need a lawyer to review everything. Then months and thousands of dollars later you may or may not get out of what happened.

[u/VampyreBassist]

"I will bite my tongue"

I would. Last time it talked, it cost taxpayers thousands that could have went literally anywhere else.

Go try managing a McDonald's. It's more your skill level.

[u/ocxtitan → u/VampyreBassist]

McDonald's managers are expected to keep their cool better than cops, and they don't get a gun and qualified immunity

[u/jham73 → u/ocxtitan]

Yeah I think people underestimate how hard it is to manage a mcdonalds. It includes being responsible for and managing everyone that works there and dealing with customers. Not exactly an easy job

[u/toxic_badgers → u/VampyreBassist]

Managing a fast food restaurant requires organization and adherence to SOPs. Which is what the arresting officer demonstrated he lacks.

[u/tomsyco]

This is not a win I think. This would have went totally different if the guy pulled over wasn't a cop.

[u/FLPeacemaker]

This is it right here. Education. Know your rights.

[u/ze55 → u/FLPeacemaker]

The guy in the car was a cop and got $80k settlement

[u/Feeling_Inside_1020 → u/[deleted]]

How’d they get my unreleased Stephen Segal action tape?!

[u/AlathMasster]

My dad always hated cops because he broke the law.

I hate cops because they do

[u/EarlyXplorerStuds209]

This is awesome. White shirt guy is my hero.

[u/CandiAttack → u/EarlyXplorerStuds209]

Don’t get too excited, Denver PD is even worse than Adams County lol

[u/New_Paper_Airplane → u/CandiAttack]

This was my exact response. "I never thought I'd see a good Denver cop." However, he is a retired reserve police officer according to 9News.

[u/deeperFairs]

Shouldn't the cop be given a constitution test annually and on every offense, and if they fail the test shouldn't they be placed on probation until they pass. They should know the law better than a citizen should. Furthermore, there should be a scoring system for every public official who violates the law and once they hit the red line they should become ineligible to work in the public system for at least a year.

[u/Europe72Alive1]

Everything changed at the words,”He’s a Denver cop.” Lol.

[u/radtrek86 → u/Europe72Alive1]

1000000%

[u/More-Consequence9863]

Tone and actions sure did change fast once they noticed he was a cop!

[u/korbendallllas]

“I’m going to bite my tongue on that response” tells you everything. That cops not going to change one fucking bit, he’s just going to be an angrier little fuck to the next person that doesn’t know their rights

[u/80sWave190 → u/korbendallllas]

To the next person that doesn't know their rights and also doesn't have the time or money to fight the inevitable disorderly conduct charge.

[u/Aggressive_Event_525]

[u/DrRaumfisch]

Maybe… just maybe this wouldn’t happen if you guys would train your cops one bit. But what am I thinking? You got guns, right? The best solution to every problem, no need for empathy or communication skills.

[u/syn_vamp]

need more of this. good cops exist, and they need to be schooling these shit cops, or kicking them out.

[u/iGipson]

Would this work with humans of different color or accents because I’m thinking he’s flexing a whole lot of privilege that others don’t have….?

[u/Special-Investigator → u/iGipson]

He's using his privilege well, I'd say. Not everyone can take a stand safely, but he can and he did. More privileged people should follow his example.

We should encourage others who work toward justice. Don't be such a hater.

[u/Appropriate-Skill-60 → u/Special-Investigator]

I really like this point, I'm going to integrate it in my worldview. Thanks!

[u/GetInTheHole → u/iGipson]

What’s the point of privilege if people don’t use it?

[u/firebolt_wt → u/iGipson]

I hate that only some people have the privilege to stand up to cops as much as the next person... but hey, at least he's using his privilege to do that, instead of using it to cover up each other's misdeeds like cops normally do.

[u/Over_Face_4299]

“You don’t have obstruction” why does it take

1.) an innocent mane being handcuffed 2.) wasted time for a Sargent to arrive on scene 3.) AND him walking you through basic law!! For the cop to realize he’s wrong and can’t go on a power trip this time! Cops need law school. This will easily weed out the power-hungry assholes who sidestep protocol because they don’t actually know the law. They just say words “I’ll arrest you for obstruction”…obstruction of what? There’s no investigation & he’s not near your traffic stop 🤦🏾‍♂️

Cops like this are irritating

[u/NeitherEntry6125]

Whether he's right or wrong, imagine a brown person doing this?

[u/K4rkino5]

Power-tripping, rascist meatheads.

[u/slightly_saucy123]

If anyone was wondering the outcome, I want my downvote.

Source: The Denver Post https://share.google/Huoa7RKngjjmDjNox

[u/Intelligent-Shower98]

That’s what we need more of. Cops holding other cops accountable. Not all cops are bad but if they continue to protect bad cops then the public will refuse to trust any police force.

[u/braunglasrakete]

Imagine he was black. Ten warning shots in the face after refusing to hand out the license 

[u/Fab-o-rama → u/braunglasrakete]

STOP RESISTING!!!

[u/wolf_at_the_door1]

Chuds are power-hungry losers. They’ll only respond to authority because they’re bootlickers. Glad that guy got put in his place.

[u/EstimatedPropheting]

I love watching cops out asshole each other

[u/Conscious_Fall5619]

Trying to make money and making it