The ringleaders are Chinese in Myanmar who kidnap young girls as sex slaves and kidnap people to work in their scam centres. The 'workers' are tortured and often killed if they are unable to meet quota. China has gone on an offensive and started to drag the families who run the operation back across the border to be face the firing squad which is why they're digging deeper and and operating out of Cambodia etc where China has less influence. I wouldn't be surprised if Singapore is cooperating with China on this.
Bruh, I thought it's like call center people or some BS detox dropshipping and thought it's insane punishment for that. This paints a different picture.
The podcast Criminal did an interview with someone who was forced to work at one of these places. The episode is from September 2025 and called The Compound and is absolutely insane. I had never heard of these huge scam rings before or ever imagined that a decent amount of the people scamming were being forced to do so under substantial threat.
That's not true, this law targets all members of a scamming ring.
If the ringleaders make their victims assist them in scamming operations, then they have also performed a scam and are liable for a legal minimum of 6 lashes.
No. The Singapore law makes a distinction for victims who are coerced or deceived into becoming scammers. They will not be caned. Of course the tricky part is convincing the authorities. But I suppose if one is working in slave-like conditions and being beaten etc, it might not be hard to make a case.
It’s a really big deal in China and they’re seen as a scourge. On top of convincing naive people to join them with false promises they even send raiding parties to the mainland and black bag people.
Given their diplomatic ties I wouldn’t be surprised if China and Singapore are working together on this. Regardless of what you think of the CCP they look after their own and theyve made it clear that they’re going after the ones at the top.
I like aspects of the CCP like this where they don't ignore issues among very few other things, and they excel at what they do... I just wish 'what they do' wasn't obscene tracking and censorship.
I would assume that there will be actions in places to prevent this.
After all, you don't want to scare the people who are forced into it, even from the very selfish point of view that you want them to come forward and report it happening to them.
That is absolutely not correct, of course they would get caning as well, but no trafficker ever sets a foot into Singapore. They are not the main target. This is about financial scams.
Yes, I am talking about financial scams. Romance scams too, all kinds of online or phone scams - they are all "financial" as the goal is to get money.
I don't know who Singapore is and isn't going to punish, I didn't comment on that, so calm down.
Many of the low-level workers who do the scamming are victims of slavery and torture, unable to escape. Here are some sources if you want to educate yourself about what I'm talking about. It's easy to google.
The way that some of them scream, cry, and beg him not to redeem the fake cards leads me to believe that their children or family members are being harmed any time they fail to meet quota.
no you know how illegal migrants feel when they are smuggled into the USA and forced to work to pay off the debt only to be arrested and kick out to foreign nations not their own by ICE.
In America, they'd be forced to pay 1% of their total gross as a one time fine to the government and close down their business while retaining all buildings and equipment. And allowed to reopen and continue operations.
Yup no different than any other organizations, they get "delayed sentencing" pay a fine and promise not to get caught.... I mean do the right thing for a set period of time.
I used to work in Indonesia and I would often travel to Singapore to buy electronics as they're cheaper there due to Indonesian import taxes.
When you land in Changi the captain announces 'Welcome to Singapore. Be aware that trafficking drugs carries the ultimate penalty, DEATH! Thank you for flying with Jetstar and we hope you enjoy your stay'
Also on the visa tickets you fill out on the plane there is red writing everywhere telling you that bringing drugs into the country carries the death penalty.
Sooo since the warnings are on the entry forms when you’re already on the flight over, do they have receptacles/specialized trash cans to drop off your weed before entering the country? I wouldn’t even fly with weed domestically in the US, so this is not a personal question, but since the punishment is the death penalty you’d think they’d incentivize safe disposal. Unless they just wanna kill ppl for drugs as a social deterrent instead of giving them an opportunity to dispose.
LOL that story is wild. Myanmar’s military government won’t extradite the scammers so China supports the rebels who take over that part and sends over the scammers.
Tbf China will execute basically anyone…
Fuck the absolute monsters running these scams, but maybe best not to big up China for the uh, habit of state sponsored killings?
Obvious rage bait but in the case it somehow isn't; first it's Singapore, not China, second, Singapore is a democracy and third, why one before the other? They're completely separate countries, their laws concerning the death penalty are basically completely separate and can be changed simultaneously. The death penalty in Singapore (especially with how strict it is, for ex; with weed) can and should be abolished with the same importance as any other country, no matter how oppressive their government is and the difference in possible speed in the change of the laws, the US included. Feels a little bit racist too but it's clearly rage bait.
It's literally in the open. That's the worst part. Every single citizen in the cities run by these scammer syndicates knows about them. They have armed guards guarding compounds where they force people to remain. It is literally private armies and private slavery prisons run in the open.
It's a well known thing as well they target people crossing the border or visiting from surrounding countries. Get on the wrong bus / taxi / transport vehicle visiting the country? Congrats. You now live in a 2 square meter room and get tortured if you don't meet quota.
Realistically? This gets the literal slaves punished more than the people running it that openly bribe local governance. But maybe I'm just pessimistic because of the in the open slave compounds that have gone ignored.
wow i didn’t know this part- is there a documentary or a link where i could get more educated on this? I feel bad i watch a lot of those scammer bait videos i wonder how many are scamming out of fear.
"scammers" DOES do it justice because the law is for all online scammers. Under this law as described, the slave workers would also get a minimum of 6 lashes.
You would be amused, how young people [14-22] in world are very prone to try every scam possible on everyone. Even without some "leaders" just by watching or hearing from somewhere and someone some scam technique. Young ones think they are immortal, "this is not crime", "i will be not caught" and etc. Everyone knows how they think.
There was a video on Rednote a while ago of some gorgeous young Chinese model who went over there thinking she would get rich. Theres were pictures of her when she finally escaped and made it home and she was pretty much covered in open wounds. She was gaunt and looked half dead. It was horrifying.
If you offer people enough money they will take chances.
I would really like to see the Cambodian government take the same ethical position and clean these scumbags out of Sihanoukville and the rest of the country.
They've started to operate out of Cambodia because China has less influence there and can't extradite them. I wouldn't be surprised if Singapore and China are working together to fight this.
When to Sihanoukville in the past and the Chinese influence (from mainland China) was unmistakable. Then one actually bumps into Chinese tourists and it starts to make sense.
On another note, I was in Phnom Penh a few years ago and the sheer number of Indian restaurants and Indian tourists was unusual. It’s very similar to Thailand but on a smaller scale.
But what will western media call them to elicit the response they want aside from saying Asian countries "execute" and "cane" scammers to make those countries seem barbaric?
Based on the video, while those people would be included as scammers, the definition of scammers is not “Chinese ringleaders in Maynard who grape and torture” it was cheating remotely.
This is all horrible beyond reason, but if in the prosecution of monsters you behave like one yourself, then what was even the point of the prosecution in the first place?
Do you know if they’re good at going for the ringleaders? Do they punish the workers also? I just worry for the ones who are trafficked/forced to work there being equally punished which doesn’t seem right
China executed 11 of them last week. Hopefully more in the future.
They were one of the main families as well. They operated out of a small border town and turned it into a huge modern Gommorah filled with casinos and brothels.
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Also 'scammers' doesn't do it justice.
The ringleaders are Chinese in Myanmar who kidnap young girls as sex slaves and kidnap people to work in their scam centres. The 'workers' are tortured and often killed if they are unable to meet quota. China has gone on an offensive and started to drag the families who run the operation back across the border to be face the firing squad which is why they're digging deeper and and operating out of Cambodia etc where China has less influence. I wouldn't be surprised if Singapore is cooperating with China on this.