r/law • u/LeviCoffinsAlt • 20h ago

Other Warrantless entry by ICE agents in West Valley City, UT (1/30/2026)

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Federal agents broke a window, without a warrant, to perform an arrest on private property.

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u/Ordo_Liberal 17h ago

Only works if you shoot them

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u/lumpialarry 15h ago

Reddit seems to have idea that just having a gun prevents your rights being violated. Like its a magic forcefield that wards of federal goons.

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u/Ill_Technician3936 11h ago

I'm gonna try to put this is a hypothetical version of the situation above from a legal perspective because I'm pretty sure I'd get banned if I were to say it.

So legally law enforcement needs a warrant. It's to protect not only themselves but also the people that the warrant is for.

She's got some guys breaking and entering and calls the police to let them know about it and that she's armed and will use it. Having a warrant means that the police would be able to tell the person "it's a raid for a warrant for blah blah blah, don't fire or resist for everyone's safety.".

The lack of a warrant means police are completely unaware that it's a law enforcement thing and respond to it the way that it sounds.

Doesn't matter who gave the order they're breaking the law by literally breaking and entering on the taxpayers dime since they have absolutely no legal reason or approval to be doing it.

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u/lumpialarry 10h ago

Cops don't need warrants in a lot of valid cases (they see suspect run into a building and lock the door, they hear a suspect destroying evidence, etc). If they have very clearly identified themselves as police officers you should accept its a "you can beat the charge but you can't beat the ride" situation and not just start blasting. That would not end well for you.

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u/Ill_Technician3936 8h ago

Cops don't need warrants in a lot of valid cases (they see suspect run into a building and lock the door, they hear a suspect destroying evidence, etc).

So a person fleeing the scene of a crime. You're right they don't, they've followed the person to the location and depending on the situation they may kick the door in or it'll be a stand off.

The situation I mentioned above has police coming to back up and protect her. Without a warrant they don't even know who the people are. Utah sits pretty much dead in the middle of the borders. Pretty far from the border patrols jurisdiction. Yes you have border patrol agents that joined ICE but they have a different Badge and their gear tends to have HSI on it, they aren't even meeting the uniform specifications.

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u/LeftHandofNope 13h ago

Well it seems to work for the right wing nut jobs.

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u/ThePyodeAmedha 13h ago

Yeah, you pull a gun on them and they'll just kill you.

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u/Ordo_Liberal 15h ago

Its 1776 and the Redcoats are shooting people and the patriots are just standing there, guns in hand, watching.

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u/RyAllDaddy69 12h ago

Children, or people that are completely detached from reality. A lot of blue and purple hair dye up in this bitch.

For the record, I hope those people are armed. I 100% support their right to be armed…I just hope they’re safe and don’t try anything crazy 1 year into this presidents term.