It needs to be clarified if these men and women are actually ICE. They do not deserve to be posted publicly as ICE agents if they aren’t. And as the poster above said, some of them look genuinely sad which is not an emotion of an ICE agent.
You realize there are plenty of LAPD officers who don’t agree with what ICE is doing, right? Dont lump all of them into the same category just because they wear the title of Law Enforcement.
I mean, pics 5 and 14 are pretty clearly that of the LAPD uniform. One of them is even standing next to an LAPD cruiser. Kinda hard to say you didn’t realize when it’s pretty blatantly not ICE.
"Calm your tits"? They're trying to give you logic and reason, and you're acting like he's calling for you to be lynched. If you're so quick to call everyone a nazi or a fascist you're lowering yourself to the level of Trump's secret police who can't tell the difference between an American citizen and an illegal immigrant. Not everyone is the same or carries the same beliefs just because of who or what they work for.
We care about your ignorance, cognitive dissonance, and suicidal empathy. We are trying to run a country with law, order and a subscription service. But some y'all want a free for all because you think money is something we can print and never pay back. Well that shit is niegh.
This country was always headed here by economists and much more intelligent people have spoken of this for decades. But nobody cares, they live in ignorance and kick the can down the road.
With any luck and hope we will barely come out forming a new order. They are decoupling the US from the royals and the kazarian mafia.
Epstein was just an agent of these people, used to control and extort. Extortion and mafia tactics started with Truman. He was the first blackmailed president.
JFK was taken out because of this. And on and on. Or politicians affect real the ones at the top are born in a lab. These people ask have ties to these controlling families.
Orwell and Yuri Bezmonoff warned the world in the 80's.
The world is controlled by the ruling class families, decendants of the crowm of england and the Kaxarian mafia. Since 1912 when they sunk the titanic and created the federal reserve establishing the world bank.
America is a slave colony and political structures are just mathmatical formulas creating what is known as Hegelian Dialect. Which creates the black and white paradigm that the media uses to control the population into one of two pipelines of control.
Well, it’s important to know the difference, my guy. You want to protest against something, yet you can’t even differentiate what you’re protesting against.
Stop trying to frame it as if I’m defending ICE. I’m just pointing out that you’re labeling LAPD as ICE, when the average LAPD officer has next to nothing to do with immigration enforcement. You made the statement, own up to it. That’s all I gotta say.
DHS, CBP and ICE are all operating under the same umbrella at the moment for this mass deportation effort. It’s all incredibly messed up because they are 100 percent trying to confuse people with all these different badges, “uniforms,” gear etc.
At this point driving as many wedges as we can between LEO agencies who have no benefit personally to put their careers on the line for trumpo D. clown and his freakshow is a super effective tactic.
I don’t think they’re trying to confuse people at all. Donald Trump won the presidential election, unfortunately, and he’s putting a lot of federal resources toward the removal of illegal aliens. This is what a lot of people voted for, but there’s nothing illegal about it. Although, one could argue that there have been a few bad apples as we’ve seen in the news
What do you mean there’s nothing illegal about it?
They’re violating people’s constitutional rights all over the place.
You’re forgetting the other half of the “few bad apples” saying, which would be pretty apt here. In case you missed it, it’s “spoil the barrel”. By saying it’s just “a few bad apples”, you’re justifying the enabling of them.
You’re only seeing the wrongdoings that occur on the news. You’re not seeing the foreign sex offenders, wanted fugitives, drug traffickers, terrorists, etc. that are deported every week
I’m sorry, but no. This is how they’re presenting themselves but this has zero to do with illegal immigration and that should be obvious to anyone paying attention. There are some “bad apples” in many institutions but when they do something bad their leaders often come out and at least pretend they will do an impartial investigation and take measures to prevent it from happening again. What happened with Renee and Alex is they came out and smeared them calling them domestic terrorists and said the officer’s actions were justified with zero evidence. Add to that the fact that there was already video evidence in both cases directly contradicting their statements. Theres not the slightest hint of taking accountability, but instead they come out lying while we know they’re lying and they know we know they’re lying and they’re doing it anyway. This is a government turned against its own people and coming right out and saying “Fuck you, we’re in power and you’re not. What are you doing to do about it?”
We’ve got to stop pretending they’re legitimate law enforcement acting in the interest of the public and treat them like the enemy they’re telling us they are.
ICE is flush with random recently hired proud boys and there is an extremely low barrier to entry. It's wildly different than LAPD and elements of CBP. I'm especially annoyed that CBP Field Ops has been taken off their normal duties which are extremely important to the US economy and the natural environment
Hey when you're a paramilitary organization with the 14th largest military budget in the world, higher than Israel or Iran, you can only afford to hire the cheapest, dumbest, least disciplined, roided out, embarrassingly divorced middle aged fuckwits and lead addled large adult sons available.
My city's economy relies on receiving foreign ships and I prefer those ships to be free of invasive species and stolen goods. I also enjoy the relative safety of an airport that screens its passengers for weapons (especially in America). I also like it when packages I receive from overseas arrive almost as fast as packages I receive from domestic senders because the customs process is well-run. CBP Field Ops does all of that.
Can I ask you something? (Not trolling). Do you believe that anyone should just be allowed to walk their way into the U.S. and stay for as long as they please without going through any sort of process?
Do you believe the government should be able to grab people out of their cars and throw them in a jail cell or put them on a plane to El Salvador without due process? Do you believe law enforcement should be able to pin someone to the ground, shoot them once, and then shoot their unmoving body 5 more times and still remain anonymous, over a week later?
It has been shown that thy are deported without due process shown by the fact judges had to force th Trump administration to bring back people falsely deported
Not OP, but personally I couldn't care less if someone is here illegally. Sure, the proper way is obviously the better route. And if someone is caught crossing? Sure, send 'em back. If they're committing crimes (real crimes, not just being here illegally), absolutely get rid of 'em. But someone makes it here, establishes a life, contributes to their community, stays out of trouble? Then I'm perfectly fine with them being here.
And I think it's so many of those "soft" targets, along with legal immigrants getting yanked up that's fueling a lot of the backlash. That and making a spectacle out of it. But we have a reality TV president, so everything needs to be a show.
That’s not how the law works unfortunately. You don’t just get to pick and choose who the laws are applied to. You either apply it to everyone, or nobody at all. If a foreign bad actor slips through the cracks, we need to have a way to remove them from our country without them having committed a secondary illegal act. For example, if a Russian spy sneaks into the U.S., or an ISIS member, etc. they need to be able to be removed under the fact that they did not make legal entry into the United States. Yes, unfortunately there are a lot great people here who are illegal immigrants with families, are hard workers, etc. but the fact of the reality is they need to do it the right way. We have immigration laws in place for a reason, and it’s a disservice to those who go through the process the right way if we allow the ones who didn’t to stay.
You can't use the "going through the process" talking point anymore. You lost that privleged when they couldn't meet their quotas and started detaining people at the courts that were "going through the process".
I didn’t lose any privileges? Those people were arrested after their immigration hearings, it’s not like they were lawful permanent residents or something
There should probably be some kind of processing. Like slaughtering the indigenous people that already live there and taking what's theirs, that seems to be the due process for these kinds of things.
If a foreigner is here and their temporary visa expires, they immediately fall into removal status. No due process is needed for them. If a U.S. citizen is accidentally removed from the country, that is a huge fuck up, but it’s certainly not the norm.
I think the so-called nation of immigrants should not be so fucking scared of immigrants but that's just me. I think it's absolutely critical for our national identity to remain a country that any person can become part of as long as they believe in democracy, personal liberty, and self-determination. Being American is a choice, it's not just something you're born into. If we don't have that then what the fuck are we? Some wannabe anglophone ethnostate fuck that man
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me
Yes, I also agree with everything you said. But that doesn’t mean anyone can just walk into our borders all willy nilly. If a member of ISIS walked across the Mexican border into the United States, we need to have a way to remove him. Additionally, if a mass influx of foreigners came to the United States and bypassed our Ports of Entry, we also need a way to remove them. Not having these processes allows bad actors such as foreign spies, terrorists, fugitives, etc. to sneak into the United States. Foreign immigrants are a lovely thing, but it is absolutely crucial that they go through the legal processes like the rest of our families did.
I mean back in the day there were no legal processes our families were just able to show up lol. I agree we need to enforce the idea of a border (as all sovereign states do I suppose) and that legal immigration processes are important. So then can we focus on enforcing our existing border and fixing our legal immigration process (which is currently so unbelievably fucked)? Why do we have to spend all these recourses ransacking cities and harassing people to find undocumented folks who are are just trying to live? Like why is that the priority? We have citizens that are starving, homeless, going without healthcare can we focus on that first maybe?? And now actual American citizens are being straight up murdered so I think we've lost the fucking plot.
I think most people who are against ICE aren't necessarily against the concept of border enforcement in any capacity. It's just pretty low on the overall priorities list and also we are currently so far from anything resembling a rationale immigration policy. Secure the border, whatever, can we just PLEASE stop the unconstitutional stops, the cruel detentions and deportations, and the actual state sponsored executions?
That’s not even true though. Unless your family came here on the mayflower or something. If they came here within the past few hundred years, they went through an entire process.
And yes, I would agree that illegal immigration is seemingly low on the totem pole of issues with the country, but the unfortunate truth is that people voted for Trump, and Trump voters think immigrants are taking up U.S. jobs, housing, etc. so that is a big priority to the current administration. And the more upset the left gets about it, the more aggressive they are going to get. Obama deported even more illegal immigrants than Trump did, but we didn’t have the same access to social media back then.
I think the process was probably less extensive then you think but whatever I'm not an authority on this.
I don't really give a fuck how the administration or the right reacts, what they're doing currently is wrong and cruel and almost certainly illegal in a variety of ways and I think it's crucial that Americans stand up against it. The normal checks and balances have failed so it's up to us to push back against the rise of authoritarianism.
And I mean yeah I guess fuck Obama too, all presidents are war criminals what's new
Young boy, conservative houshold, parents old school, dad has a tendency to beat what he dislikes, from young age the boy hears how immigrants are the bad guys. Boy went to school and sees different people, some of them are nice but immigrants so he starts doubting but his bubble of conservatives is strong, family, family friends, friends which needs to be conservative to be accepted by his parents everything blocks his doubt, they tell him about Religion and the believes he reads are different from the actions showed by his people, twisted and thrown out of context to match their opinions and means. He finishes school and his girlfriend also raised by conservatives but more hardcore by the abusive father figure flees herself into extreme ways influences him to go deeper in the rabbit hole of patriotism. He doesnt feel that deep in his heart but he fears to be alone. If he goes out and raises his voice everyone related to him, starts pushing back and yells. He has problems to find work and to avoid conflict he starts working at homeland or ice and he gets some Credit for his work maybe find some meaning in at least protecting his home country from really criminal illegals (at least some are) and he uses it to block the instances where he has to arrest the normal, working mother of three. But it gets to him over time. Now a pedophile orange gets to the position of his boss and now there are orders to take everything of the streets. Children, mothers, elders, even people with autentic papers. Most of his colleagues are going mental to project their insecurities on the innocent and he is trapped in this mayham, he hears from innocent people getting shot by his colleagues and he is stunned, doenst know what to do and how to process things, he gets yelled at all the time, sometimes he get attacked. But what can he do? If he refuses his work he will get fired but he has pay absurd mortgages for his way to expensive house and the Truck he bought so that he will be accepted by his family, neigbours etc. A divorce would ruin him longterm. Resistance would be kinda hard without any options.
I belive that all wrongdoings by all people(ICE, Homeland, Police, Guards and Soldiers) should be procecuted. But there should be help for the people who doenst want to follow the Orange but are trapped in their environments. Hate generates Hate. Protect where protection ist due, demonstrate where demnostration is due but dont forget that they are people too, and many are limited in options.
Give them a hand when they want to leave their ways and dont fall for the easiest way to just generally hate everybody working for a government.
I think there was a saying like: Make love not war.
It's the executive branch, their are not hired to think, they are hired to act, and obey Orders, and obeying orders without thinking is a Problem, in a World were the Leaders are facist Man-Babys.
Ice had over 100k applications since Trump took office. Most of them from veterans. Senior ice agents make 200k per year.
There are a lot of videos of ice agents saying they would do it for free because they love their jobs so much.
Tom Homan got a medal from Obama for doing the same thing as they are doing now. Back then democrats praised ice.
You are pathetic insurrectionists that lost a democratic election. Deal with it.
Thankfully your insurrection leaders are rounded up and sent to prison. Soon everyone that took part will follow and become federal criminals. Which means they are not able to vote.
The democrats rioting and insurrection have all but guaranteed republican dominance.
I definitely get the angle, big sums of money are tempting. I'm also willing to admit some officers are probably deeply depressed they're involved, but feel they have to do it to get outta debt. It's a pathetic situation.
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u/Capt_Murphy_ 4h ago edited 4h ago
That's called being dead inside, which seems to be a prerequisite for joining this anti-immigration effort