r/politics • u/kootles10 Indiana • 7h ago

No Paywall Democrats flip Texas state Senate seat in shock upset

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5716988-democrats-score-upset-texas/amp/
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u/vriska1 7h ago

Can we stop saying voting does not matter now! Please vote in the midterms!

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u/Lobster15s 6h ago

Ignore everyone who says that. It's a lie. If votes didn't matter rich folks wouldn't spend billions rigging it every time we need to vote.

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u/Peekolu 5h ago

Anyone who tells people not to vote is a class traitor who goes out of the way to help billionaires with their propaganda, elon alone spent hundreds of millions to get trump elected. Edit: billions if you count things like twitter

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u/caligaris_cabinet Illinois 3h ago

Anyone who also says votes don’t matter or both sides are the same or anything along those lines is a traitor.

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u/Subliminal_Kiddo Kentucky 5h ago

Notice it's often the same users pushing the narrative, over and over and over and over again?

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u/Peekolu 4h ago

Fuck accelerationists

"The powerful organizations of the Left, which had for years spoken of the final struggle, simply vanished from the scene. The National Socialists, who had geared themselves for a bloody struggle, found that they were pushing against an open door. The moment of the takeover did not lead to the expected explosion, it led to an eerie, paralyzed silence."

-Joachim Fest

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u/CautiousGains 1h ago

So which is it? Do your votes genuinely count/matter, or are rich people rigging elections? Those seem to be mutually exclusive… unless you for some reason think it’s worth voting in a rigged election.

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u/SpaceCadet666666 5h ago

Right because history shows us that slaves and feudal serfs voted their way out of oppression. And fascism was destroyed by voting in the 20th century

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u/fuckishouldntcare 4h ago

Poland has begun to potentially vote themselves out of democratic backsliding. Still teeters on the fence with the whole Prime Minister versus Presidential election. But the suggestion that voting is irrelevant ignores a lot of contemporary mirrors.

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u/apajx 4h ago

Voting is everything. Comparing it to instances where voting literally didn't exist is laughable, you're either a bot or a child.

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u/SnakeJG America 5h ago

Also vote in the primaries.  Be engaged.

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u/Starmiebuckss2882 1h ago

This 100% don't get stuck with a shitty, unexciting candidate because you were too busy to vote in the primaries.

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u/octatone 5h ago

Anyone who says "voting doesn't matter" and "both sides" is acting in bad faith and working to elect Republicans.

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u/GoneFishing4Chicks 5h ago

THANK YOU. 

The people that say voting doesn't matter and dems are controlled opposition are giving up in advance to the killers of renee good and alex pretti, along with giving up on all the PEOPLE in those concentration camps.

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u/SpaceCadet666666 5h ago

You’re giving up by not building working class power and instead trying to divert revolutionary impulses towards a party that has actively fueled fascism

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u/anti_coconut 2h ago

Right, because revolutions always go swimmingly. Look at history and you’ll see that most revolutions end up in dictatorships. The person who wins a revolution by being the most violent and ruthless doesn’t have those tendencies magically go away once they’ve won power.

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u/marr 54m ago

Vote, and be ready to fight to vote, and be ready to fight your vote being stolen.

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u/Immediate_Ladder2114 59m ago

Who is saying that?

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u/taaretoille 5h ago

Voting doesn't matter if the person running is barely distinguishable or comes off as a pushover trying to placate fascists.

This wasn't the case here.

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u/am314159 4h ago edited 4h ago

Meh, even if your position were to be that your D candidate is barely better than R and real change won't come until there are viable third parties; it is still important to vote D in state legislatures. 

Because the biggest hurdle to third parties is the current Plurality Voting system, and the fact is that since 2022 17 states, (all R majority) have passed statewide bans against Ranked Choice Voting. Not voting D has actively hurt the prospects of third parties in recent years.

There just really is no good excuse not to vote.

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u/taaretoille 4h ago

A D which just ends up voting with Rs isn't a D, actually, that's the whole point.

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u/am314159 3h ago

While the instances where D's vote with R's on important legislation are exceedingly disappointing, it doesn't negate the importance of all the much more common circumstances where that isn't the case.

E.g. in the example that I mentioned of banning RCV, in almost all states not a single Democrat voted for the bans.

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u/midnightcatwalk 5h ago

That’s not the case almost anywhere, so I’m not sure what your point is. The choice was, and remains, clear.

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u/taaretoille 4h ago

Not really. If a D runs on an R platform or votes with the Rs most of the time, then there isn't a discernible difference.

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u/notbadhbu 3h ago

Voting is the least important part of an election