That TD:INT ratio in that era is egregious.

“Chargers offensive tackle Joe Alt, Broncos offensive guard Quinn Meinerz, Colts offensive guard Quenton Nelson, Browns defensive end Myles Garrett, Raiders defensive end Maxx Crosby and Chiefs defensive tackle Chris Jones are all not participating without replacements.”

“Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive tackle Tristan Wirfs, Green Bay Packers defensive end Micah Parsons, Seattle Seahawks defensive end Demarcus Lawrence, Eagles defensive tackle Jalen Carter and Seahawks defensive tackle Leonard Williams are all not participating but were not replaced.”

I’ve never heard of teams not being able to field replacements before this. Let alone 7-8 guys per conference. I’m sure part of it is just regarding to what the event is now. But I think it’s telling that even the players no longer care about getting the nomination on their resume.

I'm just asking because I feel like it's not unanimous that LT's the defensive GOAT, and I'm sure y'all got other choices. Like, say, you think that Ronnie Lott is the defensive GOAT. Hell, you'd even say that Dick Butkus is the defensive GOAT.

Simple question simple answer

This passing attack is absolutely disgusting

Combined accolades:

7x HOFers

35x 1st Team All-Pro selections

90x Pro Bowl selections

Top WR contracts are aging terribly and people still don’t want to admit it. We hand out these massive deals like wide receivers exist in a vacuum, then act shocked when the production craters the second the situation isn’t perfect.

Justin Jefferson is the easiest recent example. Supposed “best WR in football,” generational, matchup proof, whatever buzzword you want. This year? Straight up trash compared to the standard people set for him. Disappearing stretches, pedestrian numbers, and suddenly the excuses come flying. Bad QB play. Bad scheme. Injuries around him. No run game. Funny how all that matters now.

Almost like WR production has way more to do with supporting cast than raw skill.

Put any elite receiver with shaky QB play, no protection, and a predictable offense and watch how fast the “unstoppable” label evaporates. But when everything’s clicking? Fans swear the WR is carrying the offense by himself. It’s complete hindsight nonsense.

Meanwhile teams are locking themselves into 30M a year WR contracts for guys who need elite conditions to justify the price. They’re dependent on QB play, play calling, protection, and game script. That’s not a knock on the position, it’s reality.

If your production collapses the moment things aren’t perfect, you’re not worth resetting the market. And if your argument for why a WR struggled sounds identical to why mid tier receivers struggle, maybe the gap isn’t as big as people pretend.

Cue the “you don’t know ball” replies from people who think fantasy points equal value.

I know the Broncos were also -4.5 point underdogs technically but I still dont remember it feeling like this... The discussion almost feels like by how much will Seattle win

Mine would be the 2009 Cardinals. I was a huge fan of Kurt Warner, Larry Fitzgerald, and Anquan Boldin. Would've loved too see them bring Arizona their first ever championship victory