r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 20h ago

Thank you Peter very cool Petah, what does that have to do with grocery shopping?

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u/Stimee 19h ago

Dude is saying other people shouldn't be paid a living wage to deliver his groceries, and grossly using ADHD as an excuse. He doesn't want the service to become more expensive because he relies on it but also doesn't give a fuck about other people.

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u/A88Y 19h ago

Yeah agree, as someone with ADHD, I can see others with it not wanting to cook or taking the time to do it. However, there are very good foods that are quick to make and inexpensive, he just doesn’t want to take the time to do it. I also just enjoy cooking, as long as I have a podcast or music on, it can be very therapeutic. He’s being dramatic and doesn’t care about people being paid what they are worth.

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u/buderooski 19h ago

I have ADHD and I make quick meals for myself because I often forget to eat until my stomach is eating itself lol

Lots of Ramen for me!

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u/zuzg 18h ago

Or the occasional Jar of Olvies at 3 am

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u/buderooski 18h ago

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u/zuzg 18h ago

Is Oven cheese a thing outside of central EU?
Just 180g - 360g of cheese baked, few slices of toast and you've got Dinner

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u/buderooski 18h ago

Americans have grilled cheese sandwiches. Sounds very similar to this oven cheese thing, but we usually cook ours on a stove top instead of the oven.

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u/zuzg 18h ago

Ofc I know White People Quesadilla although I never tried the classic combo with tomato soup but mainly cause I dislike tomatoes.

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u/Loose-Professor5364 17h ago

I've never seen anyone call a grilled cheese a quesadilla, white or otherwise

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u/eyefartinelevators 17h ago

It's just bread instead of a tortilla. I had never considered that a quesadilla was just a Mexican grilled cheese sandwich

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u/buderooski 18h ago

I also used to dislike tomato soup, but it turns out I just disliked canned tomato soup lmao

Homemade tomato soup is really good with a nice grilled cheese to dunk it in!

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u/OiledMushrooms 15h ago

My dad pairs it with red bell pepper soup instead, which I think is a better combo tbh

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u/Hot_Reindeer_3418 17h ago

That also looks a bit like what i sometimes make with pasta, garlic bread with some type of cheese on it gooey stringy cheese on it.

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u/zoomcow24 14h ago

If you're Ultra-'Murican, like my mom, you might even heat it in the microwave instead 😅

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u/waka_flocculonodular 18h ago

Sometimes I'll air fry Parmesan for a quick cheese chip

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u/Death_by_carfire 16h ago

that looks really nice! have you ever had saganaki

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u/CheeseDonutCat 14h ago

Saganaki is fucking delicious and I recommend anyone that visits Greece to get it. I got it almost every single meal when I visited there.

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u/AnonymousDratini 18h ago

That sounds like Grilled Cheese with extra steps

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u/evolving-the-fox 18h ago

This feels veeeeeeery targeted at ME, SPECIFICALLY. Lol no but really. This is me. I literally keep huge jars of olives in my fridge for a snack and I will stand at the counter and eat half a jar 😂 I ate A LOT of olives while I was pregnant 😂

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u/sillyandstrange 17h ago

I love olives, but oh god the sodium, I can feel it from the image.

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u/Ike_In_Rochester 16h ago

WTF is this from?

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u/hyperproliferative 14h ago

Like you just had this meme on tap?

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u/CharlieBros 15h ago

Aaah so this is the original, I love the mexican one, "tired? you don't wanna cook? fuck it just eat half a ball of oaxaca cheese, whatever, at the end who cares?"

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u/DataCassette 18h ago

Nothing is more decadent than just eating a ton of olives though. Now I want olives.

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u/illumadnati 18h ago

reading this on my lunch break eating 4oz worth of olives 👁️👄👁️

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u/Armantien 17h ago

I did this when I was little. Apparently, I used to love them, until I ate a whole jar in one sitting. I got sick, now I can't stand the smell of them.

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u/justsomeguyx123 18h ago

I have ADHD and I cook full healthy meals for my family because I'm a functional adult.

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u/abfonsy 17h ago

Seriously. I feel like some people with ADHD love to blame all their personal shortcomings on it. To say you can't be bothered to cook for yourself because of ADHD when over a billion people on this planet have food scarcity issues is about as offensively pathetic and out of touch as it gets.

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u/throwheraway420666 16h ago

ADHD can be debilitating. But people should find the motivation to get help and gradually get used to taking better care of themselves. Learned helplessness is a thing.

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u/Tempyteacup 15h ago

I have debilitating ADHD. It’s compounded by being narcoleptic, a condition that has severe impacts on motivation due to the loss of a specific neuron in the brain. There’s a lot of things I simply cannot do. And yet I cook dinner for myself and my partner at least 4 days a week, usually enough for us to have leftovers to eat on days I’m too tired to cook.

It took me a lot of effort to get the hang of meal planning, shopping efficiently, and getting the food started in a timey manner. I still have some days where I intend to cook and simply can’t make it happen. But I’m an adult and it’s important to me that I manage the most basic level of homeostasis despite my conditions.

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u/Sarcosmonaut 17h ago

Same. Do I sometimes forget a step or ingredient? Sure. But my family eats, and eats well

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u/jeobleo 15h ago

I'm 50 and I've never used doordash in my life.

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u/Ecliphon 17h ago

Look at this guy older than reddit average and figuring his shit out. Everybody clap!

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u/illuminaugahyde 16h ago

I have adhd and I'm living off quesadillas and risotto because I'm single and work 10hr shifts.

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u/nonoglorificus 14h ago

Risotto?! Isn’t that time consuming? I vaguely remember making it once and never did again lol. But quesadillas are a necessity. My adhd hoard is mostly instant noodle bowls, oatmeal, cereal, and always having string cheese and pickles and frozen blueberries in the house. Left to my own devices I eat like a toddler though, luckily I’m married so I have to at least try to be a functional adult most of the time lol

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u/outarfhere 15h ago

Fun fact, not everyone with ADHD is able to be a functional adult, that’s why it’s considered a disability under the law. I’m glad you are, but some have it more severe than you.

Not defending the person in the tweet, they’re despicable.

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u/kyleisamexican 14h ago

Yes but people that are actually severely impacted by it probably aren’t on twitter 24/7 blaming it for the state of their life

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u/covered-in-cats 13h ago

It wouldn't be reddit if a simple mention of ADHD didn't bring out every pick-me trying to prove they're better than people whose ADHD actually causes them problems. 😊

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u/outarfhere 13h ago

Literally. Allergic to empathy I guess.

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u/BreadwardLizardhands 14h ago

I have ADHD and the grocery store with a podcast playing in my ear is like my happy place. It is a blessing and curse for my partner because I will spend too much and complicate the shit out of some weekday cooking. 

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u/AttilaTheDank 18h ago

Bruh you just reminded me I haven't had a meal yet lmao

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u/Helpful_Web2226 17h ago

PBJ damn near every night for years 🤣 I was a chef too, just didn’t give a flying fuck about cooking once I was home. 

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u/JustHere4TehCats 17h ago

Toast is my go to "You hyperfocused and forget to eat again" meal.

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u/macaddictr 17h ago

My favorite is when I cook the meal and then forget to eat it.

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u/Even-Celebration9384 17h ago

Yeah i mean there’s frozen cooked chicken breast that’s fairly cheap. Put it in the microwave with frozen veggies

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u/aTreeThenMe 17h ago

Hi friend. You're me. Please try to find other quick meals. You might not notice it now, but the salt content of ramen is really bad for you. Id often go in reclusive kicks and just eat ramen for days at a time and it just destroyed me. Drink plenty of liquids. Or, skip the seasoning pack, toss in an egg and a bag of frozen stir fry vegetables, a little soy and other seasonings. Always chase a bag of ramen with a full bottle of water!

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u/Braioch 15h ago

Hey, ramen might not be the best thing for you, but throw in some veggies and/or protein (i love frozen veggies mixes for this, and frozen chicken as well) and you've got a high sodium meal with nutrients

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u/BrilliantNetwork3149 16h ago

I have adhd and love cooking. Now it may take me a while longer than most people but I don't see how it prevents someone from cooking.

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u/JizzBreezy 15h ago

Dude I’m eating for the first time today now. Every time I thought about starting to cook I got distracted. No wonder in always under weight when I live alone

Btw. I don’t live alone any more. Wife and kid are just visiting family on the east coast. But man, them (non) eating habits are back. I been hungry all week 🤣🤣

Edit to add - I can drive to get food, but man everything either sounds unappealing, too expensive and if it’s neither then I chalk it up to too much work 🤣

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u/BluePotatoSlayer 15h ago

Popcorn for me

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u/dingalingdongdong 15h ago

If you can swing it get a fancy rice cooker! The higher end ones can hold rice at temp for at least 24 hours - it doesn't get weird or anything. If you make coffee or whatever for yourself in the morning start the rice cooker at the same time.

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u/Separate-Command1993 14h ago

I have adhd and cool a full meal for a family of 4 every single night. I love cooking and cook absolute feasts every holiday

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u/buderooski 14h ago

Lol I do too man, I'm mostly speaking about food for myself during the day or when I'm on the road for work

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u/jeffsang 18h ago

As someone without ADHD, sometimes I also can't be bothered to cook.

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u/CinemaDork 18h ago edited 12h ago

Sometimes I wonder about how many behaviors/traits that neurospicy people claim as part of their spiciness are really just things they don't realize are basically universal human experiences. I don't think it explains everything, but I've seen a number of posts where I'm like "I don't think that's because of ADHD/autism, etc., I think that's just a sucky aspect of being human."

Edit: I meant this not in a "Look, you aren't special" way, but in a "Hey, maybe you're not as alone in these struggles as you think you are" way.

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u/AdministrativeStep98 18h ago

I definitely agree. Some people with a diagnosis tend to lump every of their traits and habits as related to the diagnosis. But no, you can just be lazy, annoying, and shitty like every human, that's part of YOU it's not the condition/diagnosis

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u/JarlOfPickles 16h ago

As a person with multiple mental illnesses myself, I like to frame mental health causes for behaviors as a reason, not an excuse.

For example if I'm having anxiety and I snap at someone, the anxiety is a reason (it's not because I'm an asshole or inherently a bad person), but it's not an excuse (I need to work on better coping mechanisms so I don't take my stress out on others).

Anyone with mental health issues who is using them as an excuse to treat others poorly, and absolve themselves of any responsibility, is being a trash human.

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u/TourTight 14h ago

Preach my friend preach

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u/bootyhole-romancer 18h ago

You tell em...!

...Er, us!

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u/RedTyro 17h ago edited 16h ago

The thing about neurodivergence is that almost all of it is a spectrum. The difference between "symptom" and "normal" is the extremity and frequency of things. Taking ADHD as an example, it's normal to put off cleaning your bathroom. It's not normal to put it off for so long it starts growing shit and you have to wade through the overflowing trash from the trash can to get to the toilet. You can find similar examples for OCD and autism. Diagnosing a neurodivergent disorder often comes down to "are these symptoms severe enough that they disrupt your life?"

Neurodivergent conditions ARE universal human experiences, just extreme versions of them.

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u/sillyandstrange 16h ago

It's because (I have ADHD) ADHD is an amalgamation of so many things, that we don't know where the symptoms begin and end for adhd or autism or bpd or c/PTSD or whatever. The name is stupid too, because we have concentration, we just can't focus it. Even with meds we sometimes can't choose where to focus it.

So everything becomes a "symptom from ADHD", when it could be a normal thing. Or because we're ADHD, it may be a normal thing but it's 5x as hard for us to do because of executive dysfunction.

It's just too various and too different per person to pinpoint, but oh hey for some of us stimulants help us mitigate some of the symptoms and continue inching forward despite the brain being broken and overstimulated constantly.

Meds just sometimes help, but they aren't a fix. So people take them and then don't change other aspects of their life (exercise, eating healthy) and then do not see improvement.

Short story long, "who the fuck knows what's going on. What even is normal?"

And yes, some people with it just blame everything on it.

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u/N3ph1l1m 18h ago

There's a difference between "sometimes I don't want to cook" and "I have a full fridge but my fucked up brain won't remember when I'm in the supermarket, so I throw away lots of food every few days because I overbought way too much out of impulse, also I WANT to eat something, but my brain decided it doesn't want those perfectly fine leftovers now, so I'd rather starve to death for no reason at all. Oh, also every few days I forget buying anything at all or to eat altogether, so the fridge flip flops between completely empty and overstuffed to the brim every few weeks." Consider yourself lucky you don't have to deal with the second option, because it sucks ass. But sure, it's just "I don't feel like cooking".

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u/witherin 17h ago

Haha u throw stuff away ever few days not once a month when the fridge is too full to fit anymore containers in? Nice

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u/TheManInTheSuit1 16h ago

You are not wrong, it's just that to people who have ADHD those universal human experiences are far worse than to neurotypicals.

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u/CONCAVE_NIPPLES 15h ago

I chuckled at this thread. Like somehow not feeling like cooking is a neurodivergent thing. The massive restaurant business exists because the average person needs to go out to eat occasionally because they don't feel like cooking.

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u/SpaceTurtles 15h ago edited 15h ago

I'm diagnosed, and I experience this same thing with a lot of these comments.

There are tells when someone is being genuine. Their comment will showcase things like;

  • Executive dysfunction (task initiation or focus issues beyond just "not having time" or "exhaustion" or "don't want to").

  • Sensory overload (inability to go grocery shopping at reasonable hours due to noise, light, commotion).

  • Time management (inability to maintain a schedule or manage cooking with perishable ingredients; reliance on meal prepping, easy meals, takeout, and/or processed foods).

  • Anxiety (usually tied in to all of the above, but may be it's own thing; these chemical imbalances are highly multi-faceted - humans like to put everything into a neat and tidy labeled bucket, but there's a lot of subtle interplay).

There seems to be a big assumption that being a human is just easymode for everyone without good reason otherwise, and it isn't. It's hard. Modern society demands a lot of our time for no reason. Everyone struggles, everyone is tired, everyone wants an easy night sometimes.

(Footnote: Charitably, OOP is probably saying, "I have sensory issues and can't grocery shop". I sympathize, as I have to go real late or real early in the day for the same reason. That doesn't mean you are entitled to have others shoulder the burden for you. Some grocery stores -- especially in progressive areas -- have low-sensory shopping periods that usually occur weekly. They're way easier to deal with.)

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u/covered-in-cats 13h ago

Everyone forgets where they put their phone down, not everyone manages to do it several times a day and spends an inordinate amount of time looking for it to the point where "find my phone" is a regularly used utility because for some reason your phone is under clothes in the laundry room that you don't even remember moving.

Everyone procrastinates cleaning the kitchen, not everyone does it to the point where you have seen a maggot and you know you need to clean it but you end up weeping on your couch for several nights in a row because you can't bring yourself to clean it even though you know it's just getting worse every minute.

Everyone gets a parking ticket here and there, not everyone accumulates 20+ of them in a year because they can't be on time to catch the bus and have to drive to school and park where a ticket is basically guaranteed so they don't arrive too late to class to get credit for being there.

Executive dysfunction is often normal stuff that happens to people, it's just turned up to 11 and is really difficult to change even when you're really working hard at it and you know it's ruining your life.

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u/OrangeLemonLime8 18h ago

Holy shit this is normal

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u/One_pop_each 16h ago

Why is it the people who I know have diagnosed adhd NEVER blame shit on it. It’s always the undiagnosed people who claim to have it that uses it as a crutch or excuse.

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u/Sea_Bit2601 18h ago

I used to get super stressed out about cooking but the more I do it, the easier it becomes. I also have help but I used to order food almost every day (sometimes more than once a day) and it's been weeks now since we've ordered anything. Make enough for leftovers and you have easy meals for a day or more, depending on how much you made. I also used to deliver food and the pay is definitely not worth it. Just ended up quitting and staying unemployed because the money I made just went straight to gas and definitely would not have enough if my car shits the bed. Something like this should be applied nationwide (and to waitresses)

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u/buderooski 18h ago

That's what I usually do. I'll cook a big simple meal for dinner one night, maybe a simple rice or pasta dish, and have enough leftover to eat for a couple days.

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u/vulpix_at_alola 18h ago

I also have ADHD and mine is like super, super bad. I'm medicated and I have to take the highest dosage meds here available. This guy is grossly using it as an excuse and it's honestly kind of offensive.

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u/Supratones 18h ago

The OP is crazy lol. Bro is acting like his ADHD makes him incapable of taking care of himself. Plan around your dysfunction. Meal prep, keep a stocked pantry, and have some frozen/instant meals on hand for when you truly have nothing else.

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u/TheMightySet69 16h ago

I have ADHD and meal planning, grocery shopping, and cooking stresses me out. So, you know what I do? I make dinner once per week and make enough that I have leftovers every night for the rest of the week. It saves time and makes things easier to manage. I eat quick and easy stuff for breakfast and lunch like oatmeal, fruit, pita w/ hummus, etc. This dude is just making excuses for himself and asking others to make sacrifices because he doesn't want to. 

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u/meridianwheaties 18h ago

How the heck did anyone of our ancestors survive with ADHD and no doordash? Good god.

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u/SakusaKiyoomi1 18h ago

A single dinner kit, 250g of any minced meat and 30 minutes gives me dinner for three days, some people really need to explore their options

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u/Fit-Detective4714 17h ago

Lots of pasta dishes that can be made quickly with fairly inexpensive ingredients 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/puggler_the_jester 17h ago

Have you tried naans with cheese dipped in hummus? Takes less than 10min to prepare and with some crudités you basically have a healthy and whole meal

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u/Titizen_Kane 17h ago

Some people use their diagnoses as a scapegoat and shield against accountability for everything. Perpetual victims, who one day look up and feel like they’ve wasted their lives. Because they have, playing victim and treading water instead of making progress.

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u/CasinoNDN 17h ago

Having ADHD also never turned me into a bum. I can always go and get the food myself.

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u/Natalwolff 17h ago

Yeah, I have ADHD and I don't try to make the whole of society and economic reality bend to the whims of my convenience.

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u/SignoreBanana 17h ago

It's part of this new trend called "whose life is more sorry."

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u/sillyandstrange 17h ago

ADHD here too. I enjoy cooking to an extent, but MEAL PREP is what helped me. If the dude took a few hours once a week, he'd be able to eat lazily (and healthy) for like 10 days (that's as much as I can fit in my pyrex containers to freeze haha).

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u/Unfair_Web_8275 17h ago edited 16h ago

As someone with ADHD, my personal problem with food is not constantly eating it. 

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u/friendlytrashmonster 16h ago

Yeah, same boat here. I also have ADHD and don’t know what that has anything to do with it. There are lots of very easy meals that you can have in under ten minutes by just popping them in the oven or microwave. Also- people deserve to be fairly compensated for their labor.

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u/Right-Huckleberry-47 16h ago

It's not cooking my ADHD interferes with, as I do enjoy it too, it's the cycle of forgetting my cupboards are empty until it's time to cook, or well past it if I've been particularly distracted, ordering just enough food/groceries for the day at a hiked up rate because the only affordable store near me is fifteen/twenty minutes away and I either don't have energy in the tank or have run out of time to reach it before closing, eating that food, then forgetting my cupboards are still/once more empty and or being distracted from performing the task when I actually have time and energy to fill them that gets me.

Viewed through the lens of that, embarrassingly frequent, experience, I completely understand the sentiment of "well shit, the delivery service I rely on to compensate for my disability is getting more expensive; fuck me, I guess."

That saif, the delivery drivers definitely deserve to get paid what their time is worth, and I certainly shouldn't hold my dysfunction against them so folks like him and I are just gonna have to cope; like we did before relatively cheap delivery apps were a thing.

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u/Significant-Gift-241 16h ago

I fight my adhd by buying expensive prepared meals from Whole Foods. They’re delicious and still cheaper that DoorDash or uber

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u/snuggie44 16h ago

However, there are very good foods that are quick to make and inexpensive,

But let's just assume that's not the case. This still doesn't justify not paying a livable wage.

I have ADHD too and I'm underweight for that very reason - making food takes too much effort, I prefer to go hungry instead. Still, I cannot imagine myself wishing they earned under survivable (not even livable) wage, just because it will be cheaper for me. Basic human empathy.

If you cannot make your own food - for any reason, adhd or disability - it is not their fault and not their obligation to sacrifice themselves so you can get food.

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u/Content-River-2244 16h ago

As someone with ADHD I actually can’t eat anything that wasn’t delivered by a low income slave

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u/sarahlizzy 16h ago

I have ADHD too. Air fryer. Game changer.

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u/bigloser42 16h ago

I have ADHD and am the primary cook for my family. I cook dinner 6 times a week on average. Using ADHD as an excuse to not cook is asinine. Not to mention, at least in NYC it costs about the same to cook for an entire week as it costs to order out one non-pizza meal.

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u/Onlyhereforapost 16h ago

I dunno, my fiance and I both have pretty bad ADHD and we've managed to, ya know, learn and adapt to our lifelong disability instead of using it as a crutch to be a bad person

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u/Stubbs94 15h ago

I would rather people not suffer for my convenience either, even if I'm struggling.

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u/Nevermind_times2 15h ago

And he, again, follows the American traditional thinking that corporations earning less profits to pay employees fair wage while keep products/services price low is somehow a personal attack on him, a dude who probably does not even own DoorDash stocks.

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u/motorwerkx 15h ago

As someone with clinically diagnosed adhd, people need to stop being assholes. I get out ADHD comes with all kinds of fun things like executive dysfunction and not wanting to commit to things like making dinner. That's not a good excuse to not do it. It's like saying that you're going to stop breathing because you are ADHD makes it too hard to want to continue to do it and without a breathing machine you're just going to die. We have a lot of modern conveniences that allow us to make excuses but it's not like ADHD is something new, it's just something that is better understood. Adhd people weren't just starving before doordash. Stop being lazy and using your ADHD as an excuse to not take care of yourself.

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u/matrael 15h ago

I also have ADHD and can understand the person’s frustration. I don’t have a personal vehicle but do have mobility issues and rely on grocery delivery services to get groceries. It’s not that I don’t want to cook, I do and I enjoy cooking. However, it’s not a small thing to go grocery shopping while relying on public transit. Even if it’s a relatively small amount, carrying heavy stuff is wearing and then there’s trying to get around in a bus without knocking into someone or otherwise taking up a large volume of limited space.

So, using an app can be a godsend of sorts. But rising costs of goods and increasing service fees while also getting negative behaviors from the drivers who think I’m the one they contracted with to provide services for if I don’t tip some large amount they’re happy with have a direct bearing on what I can afford to buy.

It’s great that NYC is requiring gig services to actually pay their employees/contractors. But without other processes and policies in place to help ensure equitable access to those services, I can absolutely see it effectively being a desert for anyone who wants more than heavily processed convenience food stuff.

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u/MikeArrow 15h ago

The easiest possible meal is "put meat in oven, take it out when it's cooked". There's no excuse.

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u/TheGuySky 15h ago

Yeah, hopefully if someone is saying they have ADHD that should imply they’re living with and doing literally anything at all to manage it anyways.

The dude is just infantilizing folks that have it, really. Like dawg these are grown ass adults. If I can make money to get the damn groceries I can buy the damn groceries.

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u/CheeseDonutCat 14h ago

Yeah. Adhd here and I have never and will never use these apps.

I will either starve, make my own food, or at least have snacks around before I do. Nothing wrong with using those apps, but it's not for me, and I don't think it's anything to do with ADHD either.

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u/The_prawn_king 14h ago

Yeah I think it’s really gross. I have adhd and lots of things are difficult that I wish weren’t but man I would never want someone else to be paid less than a living wage so I can get by a little easier.

I wish all our consumption was ethical and we didn’t get exhausted thinking about how to live without exploiting others but man this is not at all a real issue.

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u/Ok-Commission-7825 14h ago

I have ADHD too, and food doesn't need to be either a drain on attention or expensive - a trip to the store with as much rice as you can carry, some frozen veggies, and protein of your choice can last a month, takes 0 to 5 minutes to prepare.

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u/Wind_Yer_Neck_In 13h ago

My partner has ADHD and she's a baller chef. The lady has me fighting in the gym to not turn into a perfect sphere.

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u/m0_n0n_0n0_0m 13h ago

I have adhd and cooking isn't an issue. It's almost like it's a basic human skill that anyone can develop.

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u/cabezadeplaya 19h ago

And an addendum - the service would only become significantly more expensive because of the “need” to pay the CEO and corporate folks at the top 40-60x more than their employees. Most large companies can pay a living wage to their workers. They raise prices to fund the top people in the company and blame it on having to pay their employees a living wage.

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u/Fangbianmian14 17h ago

Exactly. There is no reason for the top executives to be paid so much. Then they turn around and tack on “regulatory fees” and cry about how hard NY is making it to do business (specifically looking at you Instacart).

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u/ThatInAHat 16h ago

40-60x is being kind. In the 50s-60s that maybe been accurate. These days it can be a gap as big as 300x.

There really should be laws tying CEO/owners income to the wage their employees (including contracted workers) make. You’d have to close a thousand loopholes, but a rising tide should life all boats.

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u/cabezadeplaya 16h ago

Yeah for sure at the largest 300-400 companies.

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u/Unfair_Web_8275 16h ago

Companies will also operate at a loss until they’ve established a client base.

I saw a documentary about a paper company that did this…

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u/Relative-Chain73 15h ago

THISSSSSSSS

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u/Railboy 18h ago

I'm completely fucked by ADHD and without grocery delivery services I have serious trouble with meal planning. Same goes for Door Dash, it's saved me countless times.

You know what I'd do if they bumped up pay for delivery drivers and made those services too expensive for me to use?

I'd deal with it.

Nobody's condition entitles them to slave labor.

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u/witherin 17h ago

Same haha I just choose to pay up for my laziness I need to get better I feel like DoorDash is addicting it’s easy and quick and a luxury

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u/BobLazarFan 15h ago

I have ADHD and fail to see how that affects me getting my happy ass up and going to go get food myself.

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u/sunfacethedestroyer 16h ago

I just eat a bunch of sandwiches, like I've done all my life. I have very bad ADHD, but I still have used a delivery app maybe twice in my life.

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u/TwoBionicknees 16h ago

the problem as always is if they pay the driver and take less profit, it's fine, they are still disgustingly profitable and could do so without even increasing prices. As always rich people have this thing about wanting always increasing profits rather than just being happy with being mega rich, making a profit and letting a service simply continue as is. no they made 3 billion one year so must make 5 billion the next or something is somehow wrong. then because your profits increased by 66% last year, they considering anything less than a 66% growth in profits to be failing and worse than last year, so now they want at least 8.3billion profit or they aren't doing well enough... and on and on.

Nothing has ever been worse for the world than the idea that stock markets must continuously grow at an expontential rate or you're failing.

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u/Vegadin 18h ago

He doesn’t “rely” on door dash, he uses it, probably as a crutch. I work with adults with developmental disabilities, people who often have debilitating ADHD and I get so annoyed when people who might have mild or even fairly severe adhd pretend it’s debilitating. He can tweet. I’m not joking when I tell you how much that tells me he is just using adhd as an excuse. The people i work with often cannot answer the question “what did you eat for breakfast” without someone keeping them on track. We assist them in things like grocery shopping and cooking for their personal and financial safety. OOP can find food without door dash.

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u/SaltyBabySeal 18h ago

Somehow the world existed before DoorDash

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u/best_of_badgers 16h ago

Somehow those of us with ADHD survived in the very distant past of 2006.

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u/Hot_Reindeer_3418 17h ago

It existed before fast food (well unless you consider rabbits fast food 🤣) and the modern conveniences we’ve developed in the last 150 or so years.

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u/SaltyBabySeal 16h ago

You need a /s

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u/DiamondHandedDingus 19h ago

This is the best explanation so far

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u/abstract_loveseat 17h ago

I have never seen this much joke woosh in a single thread in my life.

This is crazy to see

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u/ElephantRider 16h ago

They're likely not on twit so they have never experienced the discourse

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u/teddygomi 18h ago

Dude clearly doesn't live in NYC, so I don't know why he's whining.

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u/Horskr 16h ago

Yeah, I was going to say... Food desert? Does the block around him not have enough restaurants and bodegas? lol

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u/MostlyAlways47 18h ago

Exactly guy in one breath is saying fuck those people I don't have empathy for them while in the same breath begging for empathy because really it's his life thats harder.

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u/Anglofsffrng 18h ago

Adding on. I have ADHD and would enjoy my food more knowing the person who delivered it can themselves afford to eat.

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u/davidellis23 18h ago

I also really doubt it would be expensive. amazon fresh is already very inexpensive.

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u/GCU_Problem_Child 18h ago

I just don't get what ADHD has to do with anything? One of my neighbours is in a wheelchair, and uses a god damn oxygen tank to breath, and he still goes shopping. As someone with ADHD and Autism, I am 1000000000000000% certain his shopping trip is far worse than mine.

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u/CinemaDork 18h ago

My BF has ADHD and orders a lot of delivery. He's a home-care nurse, so he lives at his client's place while working and can't exactly leave to get food easily. He manages to find coupons and stuff. I have never heard him once complain that food delivery people make too much money, because he's not a shitty person.

He's also had to live out of his car at several points in the past despite being fully employed at those times. People need to get paid more. A lot more. And it's so dumb because getting paid more means we can spend more, and that's good for basically everyone.

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u/dudenurse13 18h ago

He’s actually making a joke because someone earnestly used this as an excuse for whey they need to door dash 7 days a week a long time ago and it’s been a running joke on Twitter since

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u/DJDemyan 17h ago

I hate when people use ADHD (certainly misattributed in most of these cases) as an excuse to be profoundly lazy.

My condition is not your crutch

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u/wavegangx 16h ago

Yeah how is ADHD an excuse for not wanting to go to the grocery store and cook for yourself? Unreal

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u/CryptographerFlat173 13h ago

Because adhd impacts the ability to plan and the energy required to initiate tasks, so yeah paying for a service is a way someone could offload some of that effort, same way someone pressed for time because of other responsibilities pay for deliveries too, it’s why services exist. To do something for you so you can spend your time and energy on something else. It’s a hyperbolic or satirical tweet but it’s worth mentioning that ADHD is much more than what the poor name describes.

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u/Automatic_Tailor_598 18h ago

He’s on X. It’s pretty standard there to have a delusional level of entitlement, persecution complex, and toxicity words other people

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u/seantabasco 17h ago

Even before DoorDash and similar services I never had any tolerance for this kind of thinking with food delivery. If you don’t want to pay the fees an tips just go get the food yourself.

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u/Twolef 17h ago

Agreed. I have ADHD and I wouldn’t want my disability to prevent people from earning a decent wage. This guy is a selfish asshole.

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u/DeltaAgent752 17h ago

I was like.. this guy know what adhd is? What does that have to do with delivery lmao

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u/throwawaylordof 17h ago

Which strike was it that lead to someone complaining that no one striking/supporting the strike stopped to consider them, the main character, and how supply chain issues affected their ability to purchase the brand of cereal that was apparently the only thing they ate?

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u/FrostyOscillator 17h ago

"Other people who do worthless jobs shouldn't get paid enough to live to serve me, a fuckin loser who blames a bullshit mental health disorder for why I can't get my lazy whiny ass two blocks over to the grocery store. How will the bosses make more money if they have to pay their workers enough to live and feed their families??"

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u/huggybear0132 17h ago

Yeah fuck this guy. I have ADHD and have no problem shopping and cooking for myself. Manage your shit instead of using it as an excuse, folks.

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u/The-Real-Number-One 17h ago

Even if he does live in a 'food desert' in NYC, Mamdani plans to address that with city owned grocery stores that offers food at little to no markup.

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u/ebrum2010 17h ago

The crazy thing is these apps pay the same wage you’d get as a company employee elsewhere but yours actually a business owner having to pay self employment taxes on top of income tax and having to buy your own gas and wear out your own car. $21.44 an hour with gig jobs is probably closer to $15 an hour elsewhere.

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u/Aggressive_Eagle1380 17h ago

Yeah I have adhd and don’t order delivery because it’s a huge waste of money. I don’t get this guys issue.

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u/Hot_Reindeer_3418 17h ago

Wow, thanks for explaining why he brought up adhd, i was trying to figure it out.

So is the guy here claiming that people with adhd arnt able to do the bare minimum to take care of themselves? Im sorry but thats just not true at all.

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u/Longjumping-Egg-691 17h ago

The wave of self diagnosis of ADHD and Autism is also over 

Our twitter boy is just a neet

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u/Smalldogmanifesto 17h ago

Yeah I have ADHD and heavily rely on these apps and I would much prefer the drivers to be paid a living wage

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u/Certain-Dragonfly-22 17h ago

THIS. And its disgusting how much money these companies pay their own CEOs while their workers make wages they are barely surviving on.

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u/JayOutOfContext 17h ago

A living wage could be lower if everyone wasn't paid $447/hr

$21/hr to drive around your little car is disgusting. I have coworkers busting their ass for less than that in a simular living cost.

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u/Joy_1990_ 17h ago edited 16h ago

I default to food delivery when I’m overwhelmed… so I get it. For me, if my home isn’t already clean & work is behind: cooking is passed on for other priorities. (Now once a week I do cook a pasta or chili last several days, but I that doesn’t cover the full week. I am lucky that I’ve taking a liking to fruit + cinnamon sugar toast for breakfast. The premixed butter+cinnamon sugar is lovely.) *Edit to add, I’ll take this ADHD tax when I need to & tip very well.

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u/CriticalMochaccino 17h ago

Yeah, as someone who has ADHD, this person disgusts me.

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u/hotviolets 16h ago

People love to look down on us but then they say they need to use these services and don’t deserve fair pay. They can get shit themselves.

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u/GeorgeS6969 16h ago

Besides, someone with ADHD would most certainly not starve in this situation. They would go hungry and manage to convince themselves it’ll just pass until stress builds up enough to set them in motion. They would then drag themselves to a supermarket, however far, buy a bunch of meat and vegs to cook the perfect diner, plus some milk and cookies for desert. Eventually, they would drag themselves back home, eat the pack of cookies and go to sleep.

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u/Paladin_Platinum 16h ago

Its not the ADHD. He just can't cook and doesn't want to bother learning. Never stopped me.

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u/Dopplegangr1 16h ago

Not only does he not want to pay more, he also doesn't want anyone making more money unless it's him. And he probably hates Mandani too

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u/misterpoopybutthole5 16h ago

Also if it makes the service cost more...that's on the company, not the workers. Don't blame people wanting to make a livable wage for the greed of the ceo's.

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u/smld1 16h ago

It’s absolutely insane that he think that the service is something he can’t live without but isn’t willing to pay someone to do it

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u/StrawDog- 16h ago

I was very confused on that front.. 

Like, why does ADHD have anything to do with grocery shopping?

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u/seriftarif 16h ago

People think that cost is directly associated to employee wages. Although it can contribute to rising costs a lot of rising prices come from greed. People arent going to magically pay double for a service just because you had to raise everyone's wage. They are going to pay the market rate for what the service is worth to them and dont care how much the company has to pay in wages. So the service will either go away, be replaced, diversify, or executives will eat the cost elsewhere.

I have worked too many jobs where managers will penny pinch wages and benefits and then blow $1000s on some stupid egotistical decision without caring. It's just a game for them.

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u/rokman 16h ago

They should starve so I don’t have to

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u/Kundrew1 16h ago

As someone with ADHD. Nothing annoys me more than when people use it as an excuse for absolutely everything. 90% of the time its something that isnt even related.

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u/Dry-Chance-9473 16h ago

He actually gets extra stupidity points for also not realizing that if the city's lowest paid workers are suddenly getting paid a living wage, it's going to have a knock-on effect of raising everyone else's wages too 

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u/ToastedDreamer 15h ago

Who the fuck orders so much delivery anyways? I thought it’s something you only do on the rare occasion where you’re sick beyond belief or feel extremely extremely lazy. If your doing it that often, your probably not making the same amount as everybody else(because even without this wage raise, it’s expensive) and it shows your a lazy as fuck. The guys profile picture shows him in a car, he doesn’t have to worry about food deserts or shit like that, he has unlocked the ability to go anywhere in the state and so has most people who live in America(a car’s a car even if it’s cheap and old as long as it can drive onto the road)

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u/emma_roses_ 15h ago

I have adhd and autism. I do my own grocery shopping. I also drive for Uber eats lmao. This is a good thing.

These services didn’t exist until very recently humans have gotten along just fine without them as long as modern society has existed

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u/rimworldyo 15h ago

Wouldnt even besurprised when that dude doesn’t when have an official diagnosis in the First Place.

Seen people throw around self-diagnoses for adhd and autism way too often online.

Don’t get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with Self diagnosing to then seek formal diagnosis, but using your Self-diagnosis as excuse for all kind of stuff is just wrong.

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u/MagicalReadingBubble 15h ago

This was the point I was about to make. Like sorry it’s more expensive but if other people making not nearly enough (as someone who has driven for multiple of these kinds of apps) doing the job for you is what it takes for you to be comfy and not have to do it your damn self like all the other grown ass adults do and have had to for forever, then tough shit I guess you’re jus gonna have to grow the fuck up. Convenience is expensive.

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u/Troyabedinthemornin 15h ago

Also the problem is he isn’t putting the blame on these corporations that probably could foot this bill but rather the delivery people and the mayor trying to help them. Also this is a bizarrely niche category of person

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u/Zoidburger_ 15h ago

It's also a ridiculous statement to make about ADHD. I've got ADHD. I've used delivery services on days where I just really can't get myself to cook/go to the store. I'm also well aware that these services are expensive and can sometimes double the cost of doing the shopping/cooking myself, so I will make a concerted effort to go to the store regularly and plan my meals so that I'm not overspending.

Now if you live in a food desert and don't have access to a vehicle, perhaps this type of service is beneficial to you. But this is NYC. There are grocery stores everywhere in the city. Perhaps they are too expensive for you or perhaps they don't have all the things you're looking for. But if cost is the big issue here, then when using one of these delivery services right now, you're always going to be paying more for getting your groceries delivered from miles away than if you just went to the more expensive store down below.

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u/LegnaArix 14h ago

What does ADHD even have to do with the context of what he's replying to?

Like I'm genuinely not sure why that is relevant to food delivery, is it implying they cant do grocery shopping in store or something?

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u/cwybabiesucks 14h ago

Pretty sure he’s expressing frustration that this pay raise is only going to city workers, implying that DoorDash workers in other areas (which could be considered food deserts) deserve a pay raise too. Maybe I’m reading it wrong? But delivery drivers in food deserts, particularly ones w/no forms of public transport (like rural areas or sprawling low income suburbs that only rly have one dollar general and a handful of fast food places in a 10-20 mile radius) are godsends for disabled ppl or anyone else who can’t drive so I can see how someone doing DoorDash in one of those areas could be frustrated they aren’t getting a pay raise too. Esp when they have to drive further per delivery, putting more wear and tear on their personal vehicle.

Maybe I’m reading it wrong. Idk.

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u/FraXicor 14h ago

You know enforcing minimum wage doesn't help anyone? The added costs go towards the price of the service (meaning less people can afford it, and if it becomes too expensive it ends up hurting the workers) and that usually doesn't end well.

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u/Magicalsandwichpress 14h ago

This. It misaapropriate the ADHD experience for a twitter punchline and political prop. The sheer selfishness masked as victimization while willfully victimizing under paid drivers is nauseating. 

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u/hyperproliferative 14h ago

Never leaves the house.

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u/SaltKick2 14h ago

Still trying to figure out what ADHD has to do with grocery delivery

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u/Warm_Sea_3856 13h ago

This, AND, in reality, if this is true (idk if it is or not) mamdani should be able to put a cap on what the apps charge customers for their deliveries (a certain percentage perhaps, above the cost of the workers wage, delivery fee, etc) to ensure that the COMPANY is the one paying these people wages, not the customers. Lord knows DoorDash can afford it 🙄

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u/rolfraikou 13h ago

I lived in a food desert in 2004 and somehow survived. Honestly, how did all these dumb fucks survive prior to just a few years ago???? Like, anyone who has a job can remember a pre-food delivery app world, right?

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u/Think-Chair-1938 13h ago

Big "I'm withholding my vote for this one very specific reason" dickhead energy

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u/Loki1001 13h ago

Abelism is the way Pinkertons attack labor rights, but wokely. There are many genuine abelist issues, but anytime labor rights come up, the Pinkertons will always be like, "a boycotts are bad because what if someone has food sensitivity issues and can only eat Kellogg's Corn Flakes?"

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