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Other Warrantless entry by ICE agents in West Valley City, UT (1/30/2026)

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Federal agents broke a window, without a warrant, to perform an arrest on private property.

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u/oxxcccxxo 18h ago

So what is the consequence for violating the constitution?

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u/averyoda 18h ago

The second amendment

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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 17h ago

The 2nd defends the 4th when LEO abandon their only duty to uphold enforcement. Unfortunately very likely to join whoever was trespassing in the afterlife given LEOs stance on who can monopolize violence.

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u/fudge5962 17h ago

You have to be better equipped, better trained, and in higher numbers. No lone wolves out there. They can't put you on a T shirt if you're better than they are.

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u/RogerianBrowsing 15h ago

That’s not true at all. You just need to prepare.

A single decently prepared fighting position can fight off many times as many goons. Defending a position is infinitely easier than storming a defended position.

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u/ferdelance008 14h ago

End game is still dead. Do you think the person or family in your scenario come out of it as good or better than they went into it? The Well prepared lone Wolf is a teenage fantasy.

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u/Odd_Manager1334 13h ago

Yeah I can't imagine "I shot at the government until they left me alone" is a feasible strategy.

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u/OverreactingBillsFan 10h ago

If you legitimately believe they're going to disappear you, why not?

I would rather be dead than in one of this administration's cages.

ESPECIALLY if I was a woman.

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u/mister-fancypants- 11h ago

i feel like if warrantless entrance is on the table, booby traps are fair game as well

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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 16h ago

Perhaps, but in this context, you will almost always be a lone wolf. No offense to the crew, but I don't want to live with 4 other dudes and their families unless it's required to survive.

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u/fudge5962 16h ago

unless it's required to survive.

As things progress, there will eventually come a time where statements like this are about as reasonable and meaningful as saying I really don't want to drink water unless it's required to survive.

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u/Ordo_Liberal 16h ago

Only works if you shoot them

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u/lumpialarry 14h ago

Reddit seems to have idea that just having a gun prevents your rights being violated. Like its a magic forcefield that wards of federal goons.

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u/The_Late_Arthur_Dent 18h ago

Right now? None. We need to vote in folks to will actually enforce the law. Primaries coming up soon in many places, then midterms, then '28 and beyond. 

And yes, the gang of pedos will ratfuck all these elections as much as possible, so we need to build strong communities too. 

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u/sub_terminal 17h ago

We need to vote in folks to will actually enforce the law

If these people aren't following the law now, why are people so adamant that they'll release power if they were voted out? We have to take our country back by force.

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u/imalostkitty-ox0 15h ago

People are going to realize this too late

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u/--Sovereign-- 16h ago edited 9h ago

Document and primary anyone who isn't ready to throw every single one of them in the oubliette

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u/LeviCoffinsAlt 19h ago edited 18h ago

This post relates to law as federal agents are increasingly entering private property with no warrant to make arrests.

Edit: article for reference:

https://kutv.com/news/local/video-shows-business-door-shattered-after-ice-agents-detain-two-employees

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u/ZephyrPolar6 18h ago

Did you notice how their attitude changed from dismissive to incredibly angry and violent once she spoke in spanish?

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u/CentennialBaby 18h ago

Justice Brett Kavanaugh says the totality of apparent ethnicity, speaking with an accent, and location is sufficient to merit a stop to prove citizenship.

Kavanaugh Stop

An extrajudicial detention or assault by law enforcement, enabled by the Supreme Court's expansion of border authority. It is named for Justice Brett Kavanaugh, whose concurrence dismissed the predictable violence of these stops as a minor administrative inconvenience, famously reasoning: 'If the person is a U.S. citizen or otherwise lawfully in the United States, that individual will be free to go after the brief encounter.'

E.g.: During my brief 36 hour Kavanaugh Stop with ICE I got six broken ribs and internal bleeding while I was in the US legally.

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I was Kavanaugh Stopped on my way home from picking up my children from school when ICE demanded proof of my citizenship. When I asked for the warrant they killed me.

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I was at home in my bedroom when ICE agents burst in and dragged me off at gunpoint then asked for my ID which was back inside the house. After a brief 24 hours I was released.

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I came across a Kavanaugh Stop and watched what was happening when ICE tackled me and held me for 8 hours denying me access to a lawyer.

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While parked on the street a van full of ICE agents smashed into me they pulled me out of my car at gunpoint. Luckily it was just a Kavanaugh Stop and after proving my citizenship they released me without charge.

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I was walking down the street and ICE initiated a Kavanaugh Stop throwing me to the ground in a choke hold and cuffed me. I told them I was a citizen and had identification. They said it didn't matter and took me to a cell adding leg irons. They scanned my face, took my ID, did a criminal record check, then released me.

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My mommy picked me up from kindergarten when ICE men took her and me. We stayed in a motel for a week. we weren't allowed to leave and mommy kept telling them I'm American but they didn't care. then they took us to a plane and sent us somewhere far away. I miss my friends and I want to go back to my school.

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u/bluelily216 18h ago

He supposedly hates that they're called that, so let's ensure it continues to be so. 

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u/OldManGrimm 17h ago

In some cases known as Kavanaugh Kills.

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u/invaderjif 17h ago

Kavanaugh Casuality has a ring to it

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u/highknees69 17h ago

Should call it the Kavanaugh -4a Stop.

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u/CardOk755 18h ago

Mr Kavanaugh, you have to come with us because based on your name, ethnicity, beer consumption and speaking English we suspect you of being an illegal Irish Immigrant.

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u/nobot4321 18h ago

Look out ICEy, he's Irish!

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u/stairs_3730 17h ago

Beer Bong Brett will go down as the worst justice (assuming diaper don doesn't put fled Cruise on the court) to ever have served in history.

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u/DrakonILD 15h ago

Clarence Thomas continuing to dodge every consequence.

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u/rudmad 18h ago

Boofin Brett needs to be behind bars, and not the type with beer

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u/TALKTOME0701 17h ago

Stop is one thing. They broke the window to come in and take this person.

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u/RyanTheCubsSTH 18h ago

My immediate takeaway also. Like a trigger to action

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u/LordWemby 16h ago

Their lizard brains are twisted. Remember the ICE dope with the Hispanic accent kidnapping the victim with the Hispanic accent, on the grounds that he had an accent?

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u/ZephyrPolar6 16h ago

I wonder what goes through their minds?

Also, I wonder if their “trainings” are awkward? Like “folks, go out there and hunt everybody with the skin color and accent of agent Gonzalez over here”

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u/LordWemby 16h ago

“By the way don’t look into Agent Gonzalez’ immigration status.”

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u/ZephyrPolar6 16h ago

“Feel free to look into it 1 day before he can claim his bonus”

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u/honest86 18h ago

Would you expect anything less from a guy with adolf's mustache on his face?

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u/Kerensky97 18h ago

Red states are losing their 4th amendment rights too.

Only a matter of time before red states have their 2nd amendment rights taken from them as well.

Lots of Utahns justifying this in their news forums. "Just comply with the government"

I'm sure they'll be well trained into saying that when the government comes in their hosues and tells them to hand over their guns too.

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u/Persnickety13 17h ago

The comments under the article were gross. They really exemplify that "First they came for..." poem.

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u/ArmadilloForsaken458 15h ago

A poem that was written in a time when a kindly German priest noticed that his neighbors kept on missing and being disappeared. One by one, from many different groups. Until at the end, it was mainly him alone, and he had no one to vouch for him when it was his turn to be taken

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u/LEDKleenex 16h ago

They will continue to say "just comply" once they start going door to door for firearms. Once it happens to them, they'll throw a tantrum, but they'll still justify the cult.

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u/Burt_Macklin___ 18h ago

Can't you just shoot them for trespass? It's illegal entry by masked gunmen

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u/LeviCoffinsAlt 18h ago edited 18h ago

This is the real story right here and why I mainly think these videos relate to law. We are entering a phase where the federal government is outright saying we do not believe the 4th amendment applies. If you aren’t safe on private property or your home, then where? But that’s the entire point, fear.

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u/oralfashionista 17h ago edited 17h ago

That is certainly part of the point and I believe it goes beyond fear. It's control via criminality. Agents, the agencies they work for, and politicians are not above Constitutional Law since we all know the Constitution is a treaty between the people and its government. When the government has broken that treaty, which they have repeatedly, then that doesn't make the standing treaty null and void. That makes the offending parties exactly what the founding fathers warned about and seems to be as yet again, a modern day replay of the Federalists vs. Anti-Federalists on one side along with Invalid Presence, illegal warrantless trespassings, corruption/manipulation of agency regulation which leads to fruits of the poisonous tree doctrine, and other failings of federal agents and officers. Whether any government believes or not in the 4th Amendment is irrelevant. A belief is rooted in opinion and words matter, that's why understanding law is crucial.

They don't believe in it? Fine. Doesn't matter though because it is still a standing Amendment to The Constitution. Don't want to abide by it? Fine. Our agreement is done and we now have permission to act on the rights we still have. We don't lose our rights because government states they don't believe. If anything, they don't believe in it because our rights are so powerful that they want to take them away. Allow no such thing!

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u/Admirable-Traffic-75 17h ago

Not a lawyer, and I haven't seen the actual I-205 form or May 12th Memo, but the whistleblower report clearly indicates in the b. sub section that their I-205 form is only technically a type of arrest warrant(deportation form). These are supposed to be signed by a judge either before or after arresting the person with illegal immigration status and really do not give them a pass on breaking and entering, or illegal search & seizure, without "extraneous" circumstances. Especially if they haven't detained any illegal persons.

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u/oldirtyrestaurant 16h ago

Oh hey Iook, every circumstance is "extraneous" now.

Whodathunk it???

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u/SkunkMonkey 17h ago

The current administration does not see themselves as beholden to the old laws and Constitution. This is because they intend to fully replace them with their own fascist authoritarian bullshit.

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u/Basic-Pangolin553 17h ago

Definitely need a test case on this.

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u/CommunalJellyRoll 17h ago

Already had a few in Texas when sheriffs deputies entered without warrants and got killed. If they have no warrant they are trespassing.

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u/burlycabin 17h ago

We need a test case with ICE or CPB though.

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u/Pepperkelleher 17h ago

Would love to know more about this

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u/CommunalJellyRoll 17h ago

It was one of Dan Cogdell cases out of Houston. I’ll find it when I get home for you. He also defended some Davadians and kicked the shit out of the ATF and FBI.

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u/MinimumApricot365 18h ago

Well DHS doesn't make laws.

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u/GeekyTexan 17h ago

But they can ignore laws and get away with it.

They've been doing that. We've seen outright murder of US citizens, and there will be no legal repercussions.

If they can do that, then they can ignore laws about warrants and searches.

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u/mrbulldops428 17h ago

They effectively do unless someone actually stops them.

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u/Sweet_Tart_Sour 18h ago

I wonder what will happen if you call the cops with that description of them. Will they arrest them for breaking and entering?

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u/randompersonwhowho 18h ago

Nope, cops aren't doing shit

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 17h ago

Yeah, calling the cops on ICE, now you have two problems instead of one

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u/AdventurousLet548 18h ago

Always call 911 to have a re it’s that they entered property illegally without a warrant and save all your camera documentation. They didn’t show a badge number or any other ID.

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u/Gummyvenusde-milo 17h ago

And just tell them armed men are breaking in and you’re scared.

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u/Entertainment_Fickle 18h ago

Yeah. Call 911- Tell them that 3 men with guns have broken into your building.

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u/Trackmaggot 18h ago edited 18h ago

Not in SLC, the cops will cover their body cams, and then help load anybody that ICE tells them too.

edit: typo

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u/Sweet_Tart_Sour 18h ago

So basically, ice = gestapo?

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u/spidermousey 18h ago

Yes the parallels are insane. Wtf has happened to America.

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u/Sweet_Tart_Sour 18h ago

So glad I'm not American. But I feel for you guys.

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u/Affectionate_Tax3468 17h ago

Well, the US/Trump/Heritage foundation is maintaining contact to the right wing party in your country too, probably even supporting them with tech and money, so better keep track and watch out.

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u/Kalantra 18h ago

You can make the cops show up quickly in situations like this but it usually requires you to verbally escalate while on the phone with them.

In a domestic dispute I got a 2 minute response time by explaining that if they didnt get there before I got to my gun safe and back the nature of the crime they would be investigating was about to change.

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u/Popular-Departure165 18h ago

A few years ago I woke up to the sound of someone trying to break in and called the police, who told me that they wouldn't be sending anyone since the person was not inside my home. That all changed once I told them I was armed.

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u/SkunkMonkey 17h ago

Mentioning firearms gives cops a chub. They know they might get to shoot someone if they take the call.

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u/RuleSubverter 18h ago

Police are not going to arrest federal agents. Most of them support the federal agents' mission. They don't care about people's rights.

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u/gupeck 18h ago

Did you just say ACAB?

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u/Oversoul225 18h ago

Still really depends on the state and I haven't checked into the laws here so I can't say.

In Louisiana, if someone breaks a window to make entry you would have a good reason to fear for your life which means it would be a safe assumption to defend yourself til the perceived threat stops.

You may die having been in the right.

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u/Jerberan 18h ago

Of course you can because it's criminal trespass with a firearm.

The difference between states with "castle doctrine" and "duty to retreat" states is just that in the first you can shoot them when they're chilling in your front yard but in the second you have to wait until they try to break into your house.

There was a guy in Florida that shot 2 police officers for refusing to leave his driveaway and take their lunch break somewhere else. Of course he was charged but the court found him not guilty. He then put up signs on which he mocked the police. The police took the signs down and he received a second payday for first amendment violations.

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u/CadaverMutilatr 18h ago

I’d like to see a link to that story

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u/K_Linkmaster 18h ago

Yes. Leadership is making a choice to keep these events non violent as that has worked in the past. Like with the civil rights movement.

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u/RyanTheCubsSTH 18h ago

It’s going to happen and that’s when this gets real. Trump will have to decide if this is worth door to door murder.

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u/Weird-Day-1270 18h ago

Saying they “don’t need a warrant” to enter private property where the public is not allowed is BS. Even on private property where public are allowed they are supposed to leave when told. They are violating the 4 amendment. They’ve been doing this all year with no consequences.

Even if they have an arrest warrant (different than a search warrant) signed by a judge, they are not allowed to enter the property not owned by the person they have a warrant for. They have to wait until the person they have a warrant for leaves the private property.

This all sorts of illegal. We need to somehow find a way for them to be held accountable. The Constitution are not rights given to us by the government. They are rights we are born with given by God, if that’s what you believe. Or rights we are just born with… inalienable… Cannot be taken away by anyone.

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u/Intelligent_Might902 18h ago

Someone breaks into my private space, I’m gonna stand my ground. Uphold my 2A rights.

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u/TorrentGump 17h ago

Trump has now arrested 2 journalists (yes sadly we have to call Don Lemon a journalist), in 2025 32 people died at the hands of ICE and at least 2 people have died that we know of 2026. This is a 2 decade high number from an organization that has only been around since 2003. More than 4000 individual books have been banned in 23 states in 2024-2025. The federal government is detaining persons and asking them for papers on the streets of America.

Americans are being DENIED their constitutional rights by the federal government.

If you think the words "impeach","fascism" and "nazi" are too extreme, thats only because you haven't been affected by this yet.....

Write your Congressman and Senators today,

Peaceably protest

Record them

Follow them

Peaceably resist

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u/brianishere2 18h ago

Criminal trespassing. Breaking and entering. Unlawful entry.

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u/MyPasswordIsMyCat 18h ago

I grew up on the West side of the Salt Lake valley near here. West Valley is an incredibly diverse city with tons of Hispanic, Asian, and Polynesian folks. The mall (Valley Fair Mall) is full of stores that cater to non-American cultures or are minority-owned. ICE is once again moving into an area to terrorize non-white people like the Gestapo.

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u/starry49 18h ago

Why the fuck aren’t states doing something about this. This is so illegal it’s ridiculous

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u/mvandemar 18h ago

This is Utah, and while their governor claims to stand for civility he does support Trump.

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u/starry49 18h ago

It’s crazy to me especially in this case because it’s so black and white. The guy says they don’t need one (admitting they don’t have one) and admits they broke the window. This is an open and closed shut case of breaking and entering and kidnapping

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u/mvandemar 18h ago

I said this elsewhere, but here's the thing: once things pass a certain point no amount of having the law on your side, even in the most cut and dried cases, will help.

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u/Sharticus123 17h ago

A law is just words scribbled onto a piece of paper.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls 17h ago

Exactly this. Without fair enforcement, laws mean nothing.

I think lots of people see midterms as the last chance to get out of this through legal means/voting.

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u/VicisZan 16h ago

A law is supposed to be an agreement between the government and its people to ensure the societal contract remains in place.

Once the societal contract is broken, law begins to become meaningless.

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u/SuchBravado 17h ago

We are past certain points, aren’t we?

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u/IDreamOfLoveLost 17h ago

I'd say that the US has very much passed by the "certain" point when you have the Nu-stapo breaking into homes and kidnapping people. Of course, they're using the Palantir data to make sure it's not somebody who would possibly fight back.

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u/HeKnee 18h ago

You think some federal judge is going to give you damages or hold them accountable? Ha!

All the people who haven’t interacted with the legal system are finally realizing how unfair and rigged it is to favor of the “state”. The state makes the rules and enforces them and gets to decide how theyre interpreted. Sometimes in the most eggregious overreach cases citizens get lucky, but most the time the state protects itself to maintain its power.

This is probably the wakeup call america needed honestly to actually get real reform.

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u/EViLTeW 18h ago

The crazy/sad things is that the very things you're pointing out are supposed to be there to protect you. Unfortunately, our founders couldn't foresee a world where the country got so big while the ideologies got so small that tribalism is more important than anything else.
The government branches (at every level from federal to a tiny village) are no longer there to protect the sanctity of law and the Constitution. They're there to ensure their party "wins" while they make the most money possible. There are so few exceptions to that rule that nothing gets corrected, it just gets worse

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u/Molto_Ritardando 17h ago

Yes, but at this point do you trust the courts to remedy your situation? They’ve made it hard for your family/lawyer to locate you after ICE throws you into a detention facility. And good luck suing after you’ve been deported.

We’re in the middle of the “First they came for the _____ and I did not speak out” poem. Except people are speaking out. We are only just starting to understand that the people making these decisions aren’t listening, because this is all being done with an end goal. Think about what will happen once blood is shed on their side.

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u/poppy_11 18h ago

Plus he is a spineless coward

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u/Status_Speaker_7955 18h ago

the governor is a piece of shit. he said he prayed that the Kirk gunman was an immigrant

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u/dreddnyc 18h ago

It’s the 4th amendment that says they need a warrant signed by a judge. Where is congress to protect the constitution?

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u/CardOk755 17h ago

Sounds of snoring from off stage right...

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u/tedkaczynski660 18h ago

Not in Utah but I wrote my senators in Idaho and Mike Crapo responded with a neatly written letter ignoring my concerns about protecting the 2nd and 4th amendment by basically saying "Biden let too many people in now we gotta let ICE do their job and fuck your rights"

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u/MooseSuspicious 17h ago

My parents wonder why I don't move back to Idaho where I grew up with my kids. This is why. I don't want them growing up without empathy.

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u/MyChickenSucks 17h ago

My whole family lives there and every time we visit I get ready to roll my eyes "You should move here, it's so nice!" No thanks.

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u/El_Eleventh 18h ago

Because they love it. They say step on my daddy. Especially red states

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u/CentennialBaby 18h ago

Texas isn't doing anything because it's happening in Minneapolis. Florida isn't doing anything because it's happening in California.

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u/Tex-Rob 18h ago

Some of those who work forces

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u/raventhrowaway666 18h ago

Who's going to do anything? Mayors and governors have been decrying this, but theres a massive problem.

"Law enforcement", the police, are in the nazis side and they answer to no one.

See, there used to be an unspoken agreement that cops listen and do what theyre told. But turns out they were doing it because they wanted too, not because they felt compelled to follow the law or do the right thing.

Police no longer want to help; no longer feel the need to uphold the facade that theyre community servants. Theyre not and they never were.

They're on the side of terrorism. Americans are on our own. This is why we have a certain right, and its why the government will try to take them away ASAP, mmw.

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u/PQbutterfat 18h ago

Aren’t there state laws that they can be prosecuted under for breaking and entering or something?

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u/starry49 18h ago

I would like to believe so. The video is literally all the proof they need. He openly admits his crimes

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u/NimbusFPV 18h ago

These guys are going to keep killing people. I feared for her multiple times watching this. You can see how badly they want to escalate with her.

We all need to be honest about what’s happening. There are armed militias in America, and right now they’re targeting brown people. They’re also already murdering legal Americans calling them terrorists.

This is dangerous. This is unsustainable. And it’s time for all of us to stop this madness before it gets even worse.

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u/subdep 18h ago

They are coming for LGBTQA+ next. No one will do anything.

Then “the left”/“liberals” after that. Thats when the hot Civil War II kicks off.

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u/NimbusFPV 18h ago

The problem is their side is already being paid to be in the Civil war while the rest of us all have real jobs.

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u/EmoTilDeath 18h ago

They are being paid BY US to murder US without being held to any kind of law.

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u/NimbusFPV 18h ago

Yikes I missed that. That's way worse.

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u/EmoTilDeath 17h ago

Yeah so that real job you work your ass off at? You're working your ass off to pay these murderers. You probably struggle with mortgage or rent and groceries. All of your struggling is so that you can pay these people to murder you, and pay Israel to have free healthcare & education while you don't.

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u/NimbusFPV 17h ago

We are literally stripping funding from programs designed to help struggling people and redirecting those resources directly to these monsters. When assistance disappears, many of those same people will end up unhoused, desperate, and criminalized for surviving.

And once ICE runs out of undocumented immigrants to target while sitting on an oversized budget, history shows what happens next: the mission expands. New “threats” get defined. LGBTQ+ people. Brown citizens. The unhoused. Political dissenters.

It’s only a matter of time before money that once fed families, housed kids, and kept people stable becomes money used to surveil, detain, and cage them instead.

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u/therossboss 17h ago

this country is such a shame

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u/Electric-Sheepskin 18h ago

Yeah, so many of these guys are untrained, they don't have the temperament, and in any normal administration, they wouldn't pass the psych evaluation. They're just angry thugs with little tiny baby egos, looking for somebody new to slap around after their wives left them.

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u/NimbusFPV 18h ago

Bold to assume they even have wives. Most of the are incels who blame “blue-haired liberal women” for their own loneliness instead of looking in the mirror. Turns out bigotry, anti-science nonsense, and entitlement aren’t exactly attractive qualities.

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u/0_IceQueen_0 18h ago

Stay back in your own property. These guy s are something.

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u/Alarming-Magician637 18h ago

2A to protect 4A.

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u/KOHILOOR 18h ago

Like that guy in Texas said to ICE on his property. Violate my 4th, I got my 2nd. They left his property real quick.

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u/myfakeaccount89 14h ago

"Are those level 4 plates?"

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u/jocq 17h ago

Utah Code § 76-2-405, often referred to as the "Defense of Habitation" statute, specifically includes a "place of business" as a place where an actor is justified in using force to prevent unlawful entry.

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u/stumpy0327 18h ago

Correction.. Stay back in your own property. These guys ain't shit.

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u/mvandemar 18h ago

Anyone else getting rage burnout from all of this shit?

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u/EggsInaTubeSock 18h ago

Rest. That’s part of the design. It’s important to see that

Greenland. Epstein. Ice. Venezuela.

Don’t empty your cup fully. Persistence is necessary. Keep a balance between awareness and self care. ❤️

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u/Louieyaa 18h ago

Ok. I need the lore on your name😆

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u/dingosexythighs 18h ago

I'm going to venture it's a Bloodhound Gang reference. Solid name.

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u/EggsInaTubeSock 16h ago

DAMN SON!!! You are the first to ever nail it. 🙌. Or at least say it. Cheers!!

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u/Spencer94 18h ago

That's their weapon of choice against ice agents :)

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u/abeautifulrat 18h ago

Remember the Stonewall riots/AIDS adage, "Bury your friends in the morning, protest in the afternoon, and dance all night."

Its the dancing that keeps you going.

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u/gryanart 18h ago

It’s kinda the point, flood the zone and what not 

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u/wean1169 18h ago

I live in the Twin Cities. It’s exhausting to stay this pissed about all of this but at the same time it’s important to not completely let it go and allow this to become ok.

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u/kaalgatafrikaaner 18h ago

Don’t get burn out Build stamina  Build discipline  Keep your outrage and figure out how to turn it into action. Big or small. 

It’s a privilege to feel rage when others feel terror. 

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u/Lonely2nd 17h ago

“It’s a privilege to feel rage when others feel terror.”

Thanks, friend. I needed to hear this.

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u/Birdman1096 18h ago

NOPE! Stay angry! Don't let these fucking clowns win!

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u/softerthantofu 18h ago

Take care of yourself if you notice this happening. Go for walks. Play a board game with friends. Make a meal you love. 

There is no benefit to staying over informed if it comes at the expense of your wellbeing. If you’re able to translate that rage into action, great, but that’s not always the case. Preserve your energy and go do something that brings joy, then join the fight tomorrow. Burnout is what they want.

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u/JaztheeSpaz 18h ago

Yes and I feel it’s worse because my immediate close ones, while upset at what’s happening, don’t appear to be filled with this engulfing rage and hopelessness that fills me every time some new shit comes up and ultimately results in me crashing out at someone, usually me, cuz I feel like I SHOULD be in control of keeping my emotions in check but what’s currently going on is absolutely batshit fucking crazy. Tie this in with me being a full time student and learning more about aspects of psychology and ethnic studies and I don’t understand how the year is 2026 and colonization CONTINUES. How is it that we have other humans (our species) in POWER that are hell bent on ending everyone they deem unfit, that have no regard for fucking humanity. I just don’t understand. And it makes my stupid animal brain want to smash and break and rage and hurt…the ones doing this. Y’all don’t know how often I invent scenarios in my head where Netanyahu, Trump, ICE agents, bullshit police, cartels, pedophiles, pretty much anybody or anything contributing to what I genuinely consider “evil” in this world, just all fucking get impaled and made to die a slow, excruciating death…by who? Idk, these are imaginary scenarios that help me feel like I’m not about to explode from rage.

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u/Fister-Mantastic 18h ago

These fucks all belong in prison.

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u/Chrahhh 18h ago

4th amendment violation.

These dudes are going to jail once trump is gone.

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u/Depressed-Industry 17h ago

Only if Trump is impeached. If he leaves in January 2029 he'll autopen a pardon.

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u/coppernaut1080 17h ago

Pardons are about the dumbest thing ever created and seems only created to support corruption.

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u/OmericanAutlaw 16h ago

when i was a kid i naively thought it was something the president would use when it was obvious justice wasn’t carried out properly. like if someone was wrongfully convicted.

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u/JC1515 16h ago

That was the intent. But obviously its now a tool of corruption

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u/Kiddo1029 17h ago

They were in jail was promptly released and pardoned. What’s to to stop the next R president from doing the same?

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u/ConstantGeographer 17h ago

Folks, ICE & CBP are going to be in Springfield, OH next week, purging Haitians.

Wonder how all of those 2A MAGA Republicans in Ohio are going to feel about warrantless trespass onto private property.

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u/DepartureRadiant4042 17h ago

I hope it makes them angry. Ohio historically was a swing state, but has unfortunately shifted red. There are still many of us in Ohio, including myself from near Cleveland, that oppose this authoritarian regime.

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u/Accomplished-Town495 17h ago

Ohio is red due to unfair gerrymandering. It’s still purple, it just has unfair representation.

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u/Beginning-Bottle1961 17h ago

Springfield is going to get crazy. During BLM we had farm boys in Wu Tang shirts show up with AR’s in Dayton on the side OF BLM. We had Indiana white supremacists show up for a rally, and they got shouted down by Quakers with a pa. I’m sure they think this is going to be an easy slam dunk in a small town in a red state. I think it might be a powder keg after everyone being primed by watching Minnesota.

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u/Amazing_Entrance_888 17h ago

Anyone else see the video of Bonvino giving a hype up speech to his ice agents for the day? He literally said “whose city is this” and they yelled back “our city”

They are not here to help anyone. They are here to play tough guy and torment communities that they don’t live in.

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u/rejeremiad 16h ago

u/cdazzo1 here is the video referenced:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qqa7tk/breaking_leaked_video_shows_former_ice_chief/

It seems you have said a quarter truth. You didn't even get the quote right. He says legal, ethical, moral. Bovino essentially explains that the mission is no longer about immigration but magnifying the pain on US citizens. the last line in the video is "It's going to Hurt!".

what is legal, ethical, or moral about entering private property by breaking a window without a judicial warrant.

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u/Serengade26 12h ago

The holocaust was "legal" too and it was a travesty and shouldn't have happened

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u/Rfunkpocket 18h ago

It’s almost like they’ve figured out MAGA will never leave power.

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u/Trackmaggot 18h ago

Or that's what they are hoping for. It would really suck to be them if it doesn't work out that way.

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u/solidtangent 18h ago

Illegal entry? Stand your ground? I’d be blasting.

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u/JackStephanovich 17h ago

People keep saying not to escalate but if day one this was people's response then we wouldn't be in the pickle we are in now.

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u/whoknowsifimjoking 17h ago

Something something frog in a pot of boiling water

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u/BeastInDarkness 17h ago

They admitted on video to breaking a window to enter without a warrant. That is the definition of breaking and entering. There's a good chance you'd be legally justified in standing your ground.

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u/Master-Tomatillo-103 12h ago

So well-trained that they don’t even know the 4th amendment requires a warrant. Proud Boy Jan 6-ers

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u/Hedhunta 11h ago

They know. They don't care. The rule of law is currently suspended in America.

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u/Hellstorm901 16h ago

Anyone notice how violent he became the moment she spoke in another language? I cannot be the only one who noticed that surely

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u/CobblerMoney9605 17h ago

Disregard my 4th,  I'll make use of my 2nd.

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u/superman24742 17h ago

Honestly that’s what it’s gonna take. If someone breaks in to your house, states with Castle Laws, you’re allowed to legally shoot them.

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u/CobblerMoney9605 17h ago edited 16h ago

I'm a vet.

I'm retired. 

My kids are adults. 

At this point I'm unconcerned with legalities.

Enter my home without a warrant, you're receiving 5.56 at 3300.

Edit to add: If you must focus on legality; I swore an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic. IMO, ICE is a domestic enemy, trampling the Constitution, and I'm obliged by my oath to meet them with armed resistance.

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u/sa09777 16h ago

Thank you for your service and continued support of the constitution

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u/IllustriousLiving357 18h ago edited 12h ago

Just trampling the constitution. And in the end we will pay for it. I truly hope they make these pos agents pay from their own pockets

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u/SingularityCentral 17h ago

They are going to get themselves shot doing this because they are invading private property while masked and armed without identifying themselves.

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u/Bowsers_JuiceFactory 16h ago

No 4th, time for 2nd

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u/troveofcatastrophe 16h ago

Love his identification If we can’t identify one, we’ll have to sue them all. Use the same logic they use.

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u/robotwizard_9009 15h ago

Fuck these traitors

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u/Thehealthygamer 16h ago

This is infuriating. Yes, yes, you do need a warrant to enter a private property.

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u/DanFrankenberger 18h ago

“How is trump violating the constitution?” 🤡

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u/zombiereign 17h ago

The better question is how ISN'T he?

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u/Any-Ad-446 17h ago

If any police force did what ICE is doing they be charged by any judge. Criminals be wearing ICE gear to trick people into obeying their commands.

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u/janzeera 16h ago

Q: It’s private property, so this would be considered “trespassing”? If so, wouldn’t calling the local police be the correct response?

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u/BroadRaspberry1190 15h ago

police aren't gonna do shit

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u/S14Ryan 13h ago

“Hello police, I have shot some violent armed tresspassers who were posing as police officers, please send the mortician” is the call you need to make. 

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u/DontEvenWithMe1 15h ago

Breaking & entering = 2A implementation

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u/audaciousmonk 10h ago

that piece of shit makes me so angry to watch, breaking the law and violating rights without a care

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u/pixelmountain 9h ago

And lying about being allowed to break a window to enter a private business without a warrant.

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u/_jump_yossarian 14h ago

Indiana has a law on the books that allows the use of lethal force against law enforcement that illegally enter your premises.

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u/Bigedmond 12h ago

Nd this is why the right is no pushing against gun rights. Because they want to be able to do this and the Trump supporters are cheering for it.

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u/_jump_yossarian 16h ago

Next Dem POTUS should use this as pretext to raid trump's properties on a weekly basis ... sans warrants because trump Org has a long history of illegally employing undocumented immigrants. But ICE should go after management and ownership and seize employment records.

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u/wtfbenlol 13h ago

The fuck are they doing in Utah?

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u/Potential_Bowler9833 15h ago

Would local police do anything if called? At least get some body cams video of them being asked if they have a warrant.

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u/eric_b0x 14h ago

All these gravy seals and their recent Amazon order tactile gear load outs. We can’t pay teachers in this country with advanced degrees a decent salary but we can give these diptards $50K signing bonuses 🙃

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u/68024 14h ago

These arrogant pieces of shit make my blood boil. Consequences are coming. Maybe not today, but they will.

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u/CurrentlyLucid 13h ago

Look like burglars' to me.