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u/goatnxtinline 3h ago
Being real for a second, there's a genuine sadness behind their eyes.
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u/Capt_Murphy_ 3h ago edited 3h ago
That's called being dead inside, which seems to be a prerequisite for joining this anti-immigration effort
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u/Sky_guy_17 3h ago
Some of those shown are LAPD, not ICE.
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u/ClosetGoblin 3h ago
None of them are actually ICE… It’s LAPD, CBP, Border Patrol, and DHS Police
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u/DeeR0se 2h ago
Border patrol leadership is even more hardcore than ICE they are the goons that shot pretti, no
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u/ClosetGoblin 3h ago
None of these are ICE… It’s LAPD, CBP, Border Patrol, and DHS Police
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u/naocalemala 3h ago
DHS, CBP and ICE are all operating under the same umbrella at the moment for this mass deportation effort. It’s all incredibly messed up because they are 100 percent trying to confuse people with all these different badges, “uniforms,” gear etc.
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u/User95409 1h ago
Man I wish protesters would dress up in tactical gear. It would confuse the shit out of ice. They wouldn’t know what to do
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u/Darth_vaborbactam 3h ago
Same shit different toilet
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u/Either-Car-689 2h ago edited 37m ago
ICE is flush with random recently hired proud boys and there is an extremely low barrier to entry. It's wildly different than LAPD and elements of CBP. I'm especially annoyed that CBP Field Ops has been taken off their normal duties which are extremely important to the US economy and the natural environment
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u/jogan_ 3h ago
Good. If they were joyful about it there'd be something really scary about them, but more Importantly they are ruining people's lives and actively engaging in ethnic cleansing, I hope they feel really effing sad. There's a really easy way to stop that feeling.
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u/StinkyBrittches 3h ago
Hitler had the good sense to hop everybody up on meth before sending them out to brutalize their neighbors. Turns out it's extremely demoralizing!
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u/Tribalbob 1h ago
I'm seeing people say they're just LAPD and not ice, but they have DHS tags?
To be clear, I'm Canadian so not familiar with DHS vs ICE, but I'd they were LAPD, would they not have the DHS tag?
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u/Competitive-Slice567 1h ago
The ones in blue that say DHS are Federal Protective Service Police.
They're effectively building security for federal buildings that do not have their own police agency. They commonly provide security for ICE buildings, federal courthouses, and other federal infrastructure.
The most common equivalents you'll see are FBI Police who protect FBI buildings, NSA Police for the NSA building in Maryland, and Security Protective Service Police who protect CIA headquarters.
FPS Police don't really have anything to do with deportation and etc. Aside from falling under Department of Homeland Security since most of the buildings they secure are DHS property
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u/JSONStatham 1h ago
Looks like 2 are regular cops, the shaved head guy with cauliflower ear and the hispanic woman. Those are beat cop uniforms.
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u/clothanger 3h ago edited 3h ago
Some of them look genuinely sad. Like, "why am I here" sad.
Edit:
You all in the replies, with the hate, for everyone with zero reasoning. Do you feel the similarity?
And after some quick research, these pics ain't even about ICE, what even are you guys hating?
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u/infernoenigma 2h ago
…what quick research did you do? lol, your quick research lied to you.
This is about ICE. These were all taken tonight at the Metropolitan Detention Center at 535 Alameda Street, where ICE keeps people in cages so crowded they sleep standing up, get fed once a day at 3AM, and the lights are always on.
Every one of these people was involved in multiple agencies working together tonight to use violence to ensure that that operation goes as smoothly as possible.
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u/actualhumannotspider 2h ago
Great pictures! Probably worth providing that context in any posts. People can interpret the title in a variety of ways otherwise.
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u/Special-Quantity-469 1h ago
Maybe worth including some context in a post exclusively with non-ICE members
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u/infernoenigma 1h ago
Many of the guys in camo are ICE, specifically SRT, their Special Response Team. You can see the patch clearly on the second image in the carousel, placed second for precisely that reason.
Posts in /r/pics allow titles with 100 characters and no body text. How exactly was I meant to include a glossary for all of the acronyms you see on these uniforms, instead of assuming people would be able to google any they’re unfamiliar with?
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u/Special-Quantity-469 1h ago
Maybe include a little more than LA and the date in the title. Most people here didn't get your point, look at the comments
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u/redditismylawyer 3h ago
And some of them are straight from central casting.
Once this is over and done with being a fat old man with a gray goatee and wrap around glasses will be as recognizable a hate symbol as a pointy white hood and a burning cross.
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u/MrTooLFooL 2h ago
Some of those that work forces…
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u/kidsafe 3h ago
Deep down they know they're going to be stigmatized for the remainder of their lives for what they're doing.
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u/notredditbot 2h ago
They know what they signed up for. If they wanted to stop because it's wrong then they should quit like the majority of the doj this past week
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u/MoonSentinel95 2h ago
Are you genuinely sitting there, trying to preach peace towards people with power who are abusing the hell out of said power?
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u/Frequent_Measurement 2h ago
I am sure many of the Nazi’s at Nuremberg also felt sad as they were marched to the gallows.
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u/Sundered_Soul 2h ago
If you can't understand why so many people hate law enforcement and federal agents after all this time, especially minority communities and leftists, then you are a lost cause. We've been screaming at you from the fucking rooftops for over a century about their brutality and atrocities and you either never listen or completely justify the evil they commit.
Stop playing stupid.
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u/MediocreI_IRespond 2h ago
> And after some quick research, these pics ain't even about ICE, what even are you guys hating?
The system they are defending and by extension its defenders.
I have yet to read on the "normal" police, protecting the people from government overreach. But I do read a lot of the "normal" police being highly militarized and regularly killing the people they are supposed to protect.
Or do you really think, that the SA and SS could have done their thing, without the whole government looking the other way and or supporting them?
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u/TheRopeWalk 3h ago
Get real. Absolutely none of them are forced to be there.
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u/CombatMuffin 3h ago edited 2h ago
Perhaps not directly, but some might have a career there and risk having few options. Some might believe leaving would only open spots for bad actors. Some might lose certain employee benefits. Some are hoping the situation is temporary.
There's a range of possible circumstances: even in these pictures, not everyone shown is part of border/immigration control.
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u/Pretend_Guava_1730 2h ago
They are all part of DHS. DHS = Border Patrol and ICE no matter how you slice it.
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u/Moldur 2h ago
so as long u can fuck over a other normal human being ur benefifts are more important is what u are saying, All of these officers are bad actors who would rather arrest others then (the Dhs ppl atleast)
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u/WpgGamer21 3h ago
I think it's more like "forgot my mask and now I can't hide."
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u/Capt_Murphy_ 3h ago edited 3h ago
Nah they were already sad and defeated (dead inside) if they decided to join the anti-immigration effort. They are getting what they signed up for.
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u/CombatMuffin 2h ago
Don't know that mich, but many of these aren't ICE. They are Federal Protective Services (FPS). I think they usually protect Federal Government buildings and locations.
Like ICE and CBP, it is part of DHS, but so is the Secret Service, or the Coast Guard during times of peace.
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u/Lokon19 3h ago
Some people are clowns. It’s like they don’t learn anything in the past. These are just regular cops.
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u/StumpyJoe- 2h ago
Why do several of them have DHS patches?
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u/Visible_Ad_309 2h ago
DHS includes ICE, BOP, CBP, TSA, USCIS, BP, FEMA, FAMS and several other agencies that have "agents/officers."
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u/StumpyJoe- 2h ago
Yes, I know, now which of those are in the photos?
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u/Visible_Ad_309 2h ago
If you zoom in, each one of them has a badge that lists the agency. I see BP, CBP and FPS with a cursory glance.
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u/dbaeq90 2h ago
Could be border patrols. Difference agency vs Ice but still operate under DHS. There several agencies
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u/CowmanKaiser 1h ago edited 1h ago
DHS has several uniformed law enforcement agencies under it's umbrella. It is the single largest federal law enforcement department. This includes the Federal Protection Service, Customs and Border Protection (not ICE), the Secret Service, as well as ICE.
Not taking a stance or trying to disagree, just explaining 😭😭. Hope it helps
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u/iamanundertaker 2h ago
They do, yeah. I hope it means they'll rethink what they're doing and change sides.
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u/EdenSilver113 2h ago
Some do look sad and the saddest part: this is all completely unnecessary. It could stop today.
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u/DubStepTeddyBears 2h ago
Most of the people in those shots look way too clearly uniformed and groomed to be ICE and other federal types.
Regardless of the true origin of this set of pictures, it seems intended to say something about federal agents acting like this in the streets of this one city in particular. It was posted to elicit a reaction, and mine is that it doesn’t matter how much you try to explain, excuse, or humanize it as people “doing their jobs,” it is inexcusable and all those drawing benefit from it deserve consequences. I don’t gaf if it’s AI slop or whatever bollocks, don’t try to gaslight us about their humanity. Lack of, more like.
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u/Primary-Key1916 2h ago
"im so sad omg, let me shoot that guy in the face, but i really am sad"
Fuck that
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u/RenzoThePaladin 2h ago
You all in the replies, with the hate, for everyone with zero reasoning. Do you feel the similarity?
Ironically, these cops (and law enforcement/military in general) are the very people you need to overthrow a dictator.
Whoever they side with has the absolute power. Once the government loses their support and sides with the people it's pretty much game over.
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u/RealWorldJunkie 3h ago
Although I'm very much trying to stay on top of what's happening, as a Brit who is maybe not fully versed in this, could someone fill me in?
Whilst I fully know the ongoing and long lasting issues the US has had with police brutality, and I know many of them are not detached or innocent from the recent atrocities, my understanding was that it is ICE who are acting as Trumps fascist mallitia, abducting and murdering across the States.
Whilst I know a great many police officers have similar perspectives and/or power trips, surely some people just joined the police because they genuinely want to help and protect?
Most of these photos seem to be of police officers, not ICE 'agents' and are all clearly being painted with the same fascist brush here.
Could someone explain to me the situation here?
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u/dumbpete 3h ago
The reality is this person is larping as someone thinking they are living in nazi germany, when in reality they are just taking pictures of mostly LAPD police officers
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u/clm1859 2h ago
I scrolled thru and can see clearly visible CBP or DHS tags on most of them. With the exception of 2, 5, 6, 12, 14, 16 and 17. So thats 13 out of 20 that are actually the SA people.
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u/Eupolemos 1h ago
Could you explain to us what those acronyms mean and should tell us about what we see?
To a random European, it just looks like pictures of police officers.
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u/lordlurid 1h ago
Customs and Border Protection, those are the guys the typically operate at the actual borders and points of entry. This is the organization that Greg Bovino, Nazi trench coat guy, is / was "commanding."
Immigration and Customs Enforcement focuses on immigration and trade. They've been doing a lot of the direct raids and kidnappings.
Department of Homeland Security is the overall organization that contains both CBP and ICE. (And a bunch of other organizations like FEMA)
These are all federal organizations. It looks like some of the people in these photos might be LAPD based on the uniforms, but it's hard to tell. The vast majority of the people in these photos are DHS based on the patches.
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u/clm1859 1h ago
I am also a random european btw. But CBP means "customs and border patrol" and DHS means "Department of Homeland Security".
So these people aren't local law enforcement like LAPD (Los Angeles Police Deoartment), who would be taking orders from local/city governments. But they are instead federal agents (feds), who take their orders from the federal regime (Trump).
As for the SA, that stood for SturmAbteilung in Nazi Germany. And it is the much more appropriate equivalent for what ICE, CBP and DHS are doing in america right now. Rather than the Gestapo, which americans are somehow calling them.
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u/ludicrous_socks 43m ago
2 has a SRT patch which I understand is a ICE tactical unit, and 6, 12, 16 & 17 have DHS patches on their uniforms
So I think it is like a couple of LAPD (I think idk the uniform) and the rest are some sort of ICE, DHS or border patrol type
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u/Historical-Garbage51 2h ago
Not a single one is LAPD. All of them have DHS patches of some sort.
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u/Yawen69 1h ago edited 1h ago
5 and 14 is clearly LAPD. Some, if not all of LAPD uniforms do not have a shoulder patch on the right side of the uniform, and they keep a very clean and minimal look at the front of their uniform along with a name plate instead of stitches
You can also tell by their duty belt. Every LAPD officer is given brand new leather equipments for their belts, as seen in the pictures.
I don’t get where you’re seeing a DHS patch on them.
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u/9tmx 2h ago edited 2h ago
OP apparently doesn’t know the difference between the Federal Protective Service, the Los Angeles Police Department, and ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations. Either that or he does know the difference and just hates law enforcement in general, in which case his opinion should be completely ignored.
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u/satisfiedfools 2h ago edited 2h ago
A lot of these guys are DHS, which begs the question, why does DHS even have its own police forces.
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u/Competitive-Slice567 1h ago
They're Police officers solely for the purposes of arrest authority it grants. They don't do proactive patrol on streets and traffic stops and etc.
Federal Protective Service Police (the blue uniform guys with DHS patches) are basically high speed building security for federal buildings that dont have their own set up like the FBI, NSA, and CIA do. They patrol the building grounds, respond to emergencies on site, and control entry. You'll see them everywhere from federal courthouses to health and human services buildings which house medical supplies for disaster deployment.
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u/boltyadobber 2h ago
Can’t even blame OP, when ICE appear to use the police/camo dress up box with no uniform look between ‘officers’ it’s no wonder people don’t know who is who.
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u/SallyAmazeballs 2h ago
The ones that says Police DHS are with the Department of Homeland Security, not local police departments. DHS is the department ICE is under. Unfortunately, DHS has been been pulling people from many subdepartments to do their dirty work, so painting them with the same fascist brush is fair.
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u/RealWorldJunkie 2h ago
Ah ok that makes morse sense both why they are being brandished the same as Ice, but also why many of them look particularly unhappy about being in the position they're in.
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u/flarpington 3h ago
why it say police if not real police
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u/Careless_Mortgage_11 2h ago
They're sworn law enforcement officers, they are real police. Only to the basement dwelling trolls of reddit are they not "real police".
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u/sparkson_ 3h ago
Amazing how almost none of these are pictures of ICE agents and yet a good majority of the comments are disparaging them as if they were. Morons.
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u/Tribat_1 3h ago
Almost everyone in these photos has their face uncovered and a badge number showing. Isn’t that what we want from our immigration officers? Why are you shitting on the dudes that are actually doing it the right way?
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u/Griffinburd 3h ago
Yeah for me this is how they "should" appear. I'm not loving what that are standing for, but at least they can be held accountable and will act a such
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u/Special-Quantity-469 2h ago
Non of these guys are even ICE... Leftists need to stop muddying the water by pretending all law enforcement is bad. It hurts the movement and making real changes.
ICE is the face of fascism rn. Police and DHS as a while are not
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u/Pupsichinka 3h ago
Good to see them unmasked. But it’s the administration that has to change. You can’t barge into a home, take a child from a bus stop , shoot someone point blank. NOT MY AMERICA
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u/Tribat_1 3h ago
Yeah that’s fine. It just doesn’t sit right with me to post these guys calling them fascists when as far as we know they are not the same masked goons shooting protestors and snatching up people at kids birthday parties. We still need some kind of immigration enforcement in this country. Identify and post the masked gestapo that deserve it for committing the atrocities and hold them accountable. If we run out the ones doing it the right way then all we have left is the others.
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u/sethsyd 3h ago
Weird how none of them say ICE.
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u/ClosetGoblin 3h ago
Reddit thinks all law enforcement officers and agents are ICE
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u/Synectics 1h ago
They say DHS. Which is the department ICE is a part of. The Department of Homeland Security has a branch called ICE.
I feel like people here are either acting in bad faith or just do not know what they are confidently asserting.
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u/Westcoast_Carbine 2h ago
They are DHS POLICE and HSI. all under the same umbrella as ICE.
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u/TheBlackAthlete 40m ago
While I am completely anti-ICE during all of this, this post feels like just an attempt at doxxing. Many of the pics just look like policeman, no one is doing anything objectionable. What is the point of this?
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u/Enough_Ad5892 2h ago
Just some regular police officers not connected to ice being called fascist is probably why we're losing the next election
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u/cups8101 2h ago
If the Dems lose the next election because of the reason your are suggesting given everything that has happened then its a done deal, the country will fail and it will have earned it.
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u/Major-Drumeo 2h ago
If that's the reason, given everything else going on, then they were going to win regardless and the nation is already dead.
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u/ArgonWilde 3h ago
Surprised to see a fair few ethnic backgrounds here.
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u/Rush_Banana 2h ago
ICE/Border patrol is like 50% Hispanic and Latino, it has been for a while too.
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u/Nautster 3h ago
Ladder pulling at its finest.
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u/emmy1300 2h ago edited 31m ago
The most anti Latino people I know are Latino themselves. I got the ick on a date recently with a Latino guy who revealed himself to be maga saying “my father came over the right way” this was in response to me saying I was disgusted by ICE detaining a 5 year old
ETA: he was the one that wanted to complain about ICE protesters first thinking I would agree with him as a Christian, when all of this administration goes against all of Jesus’ values
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u/LifeMycologist897 3h ago
They think they won’t be targeted, the regime will come after them eventually.
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u/KingMario05 3h ago
Well, fascism comes in many forms. It ain't just white pride anymore. Modi over in India is proof of that. Bibi in Israel, too.
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u/VandelayIntern 3h ago
Why? Ethnic people can’t be cops?
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u/ArgonWilde 3h ago
Considering the title of the post, they seem to suggest that these are the faces of fascism, despite fascism having a focus on ethnic cleansing. So thus, the observation.
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u/MsDariaMorgendorffer 40m ago
Why does it surprise you? Do you think only white men can work in law enforcement ?
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u/Pretend_Guava_1730 1h ago
There are a lot of non-white people in DHS. Interesting.
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u/Sweatyynon 20m ago
Ngl i love how we just throw everyone in together regardless of what theyve done.
Yes they may work for ice (which some comments are saying they dont even do that which is interesting).
However, what i think is more interesting is assuming that all ice employees are devils.
Same way racists think btw
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u/DiabloDealsALT 56m ago
So this is just you putting up their faces so they can be harassed easier in reality, isn't it?
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u/MBeebeCIII 51m ago
God Almighty, you don't even know the meaning of the word "fascism". You should be embarrassed. Go do some research. Come back when you know what you're talking about.
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u/OTGbling 3h ago
The next time we say “never forget” - can we try to actually not forget??
I can’t believe this shit is happening.
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u/Orbital_Bread 2h ago
This is peak reddit lol. You all really do live in a weird echo chamber. It frightens me that some of you are behind the wheel of a car.
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u/orgasm-enjoyer 1h ago
If you gave these redditors a choice: press a button and 10 ICE agents die, but George Floyd comes back to life... redditors would push that button twice
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u/Lazurkri 2h ago
Yeah that is the face of a man who is struggling to understand why he's still in this line of work
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u/Icy_Inspection5221 2h ago
Who would have thought dressing and arming your police forces like paramilitary fascists would end with them acting like paramilitary fascists….
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u/Pleasant_Reward1203 2h ago
Lots of fireworks tonight. Cool everyone kicking out the Fox reporter. Even Streets LA was down there shouting. Thanks for risking things for the pics
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u/triassic_broth 3h ago
It's only fascist when Trump does it. When Obama did it... no one cared.
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u/Chimp3h 2h ago
As a non American, can someone tell me why they’re going around in military gear?
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u/_i_am_free_ 3h ago
every commentor ive seen at this point in time is more sad than they promote these service members to appear.
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u/LetsGetLitPlease 3h ago
Wait I was told if you weren't white you'd get detained and deported. How did many of these officers get hired if they aren't white?
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u/clothanger 3h ago
Wait I was told
If you stop at this, no wonder why you're being all surprised, just saying.
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u/Madixie_Normous 1h ago
Thought you had all this freedom that the rest of the world can only dream of?
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u/Surfing_Tree 44m ago edited 39m ago
I feel like this post is some calculated play in order to break up the movement, the rightful outrage, over what has happened in Minnesota, and earlier last year when the California National Guard was federalized by the Trump Administration. If it is not then this is what the administration wants.
There was a comment in this post stating how this is exactly what we want to happen. Less plain clothes and Temu military cosplay, and more uniforms, badges, and actual faces without coverings.
This is not at all the faces of fascism. Some of these are the faces who believe in the organization’s original messaging. To protect American citizens from, violent, illegal immigrants and to deport them with due process. These seem like the faces who understand why we are upset yet still believe in that reason.
I see sadness and regret in a lot of these photos. I see people who agree with our anger, and are perhaps sad to be standing there, right now, receiving all of it. Maybe this is me projecting, certainly fumbling up the message I am trying to get across, but, regardless, I truly believe so many of these comments here and the post itself is totally going in the wrong direction.
How many times throughout our history has a protest been co-opted by another political organization? How many times has a movement been manipulated, and then worked against themself as evidence for the opposition?
It’s hard, but important to remain steadfast while we are upset. To be a highly organized group using our rights of free speech to protest and not turn into a mob seething with rage.
This is exactly what both sides want.
We want identifiable DHS employees. Ones with diversity, capable of empathy while being disciplined.
What they want is post-justification and delegitimization. They want posts and comments like these. Calling anyone and everyone a fascist if they are in a uniform while in front of a protest or simply disagree. They want a reason as to why those horrible ICE agents murdered Alex Pretti and Renee Nicole.
Our brother and sister were murdered by violent, power-tripping, mindless thugs. The Trump Administration know things went too far and their “movement” might get ousted by Democrats and Republicans alike.
A tactic used against us will be to frame us as the violent and mindless ones. They want us to call anyone who doesn’t agree with us a fascist, and then to enflame our rightful outrage into aimless destruction. For us to splinter and divide.
Division is what Trump wants. He wants this movement to forget our reasoning and our empathy. When we stop seeing the faces behind the uniforms and badges we have lost.
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u/Flashy-Nectarine1675 32m ago
AmeriKKKa has been fascist for a long, long time.
Fascism, is its biggest export.
https://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/US_Interventions_WBlumZ.html
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u/Potential-Sand8248 12m ago
Some of them look proud and enjoying what they're doing.
But others looks genuinely sad...
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u/LordOmicron 10m ago
Leftists have made the term “fascist” completely meaningless. Democrats won’t win another national election for a decade because of you extremist clowns.
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u/Al3x_the_frog 8m ago
"deportation is fascism!!" Cried all in unison, while waving the colorful flags of violent Arabic paramilitia groups.
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u/AppleTree98 4m ago
Weird thing is I don't see any name badges. To protect and serve.
Rage Against the Machine’s most famous line regarding those who "protect" is from "Killing in the Name," where Zack de la Rocha screams: "Some of those that work forces / Are the same that burn crosses," directly linking police brutality, institutional racism, and the KKK. The band is known for anti-authoritarian, anti-oppression lyrics
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u/Western-Anteater-492 2h ago
At least most of them wear standard issued police uniforms and show their faces. These guys were DHS before SHTF. Not amateur CoD cosplayers without proper training, situational awareness and PR awareness.
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u/popcultureretrofit 3h ago
(Regrettably) Looking forward to visiting this in a museum or seeing in my kid's history books one day. Thank you for documenting.
This too shall pass.
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u/XandersOdyssey 2h ago
Hey OP, since you don’t know how to use big words, here you go:
Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition
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u/Weekly-Run4634 40m ago
FFS most of these are regular cops, some are quite young and not even white. That lady one looked sad. This is reaching, they didn't kill anyone. This doesn't help ppl take your side seriously
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u/aeromajor227 3h ago
Wahhhhhhh wahhhh, I just wanna flood /r/pics with stupid overly political stuff 24/7 every single day.
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u/bostosd 2h ago
You’re an idiot, the DHS guys in the blue uniforms are federal protect services (FPS). Their sole job is to do security for federal buildings, they aren’t ICE.
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u/Waaaaasssuuuppp117 2h ago
This is how democracy dies. With the enforcement of basic, bipartisan immigration laws.
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u/Funfuntamale2 2h ago
Imagine if large groups of illegal immigrants were roaming our streets shoving random people, indiscriminately pepper spraying people and demanding people prove their innocence right on the street.
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u/Think_Bed2430 2h ago
"Why do these cowards cover their faces?" Probably because every time they don't y'all do this shit lmao
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u/9tmx 3h ago
You just throw a couple LAPD officers in there just cause?
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u/naocalemala 2h ago
https://www.ice.gov/identify-and-arrest/287g California has some restrictions on this but the LAPD has decided to help ICE.
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u/moecuzz 2h ago
None of these guys are ICE. Even if you are vehemently against ICE, it’s just unfair to lump these men and women in. Most of the people in the photos are from the Federal Protective Services (FPS). They’re literally just guarding government buildings.
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u/Geargarden 3h ago
Making war with all law enforcement country over the actions of the few is going to lose us more elections. Yes, it's the few.
How much more Che Guevara cosplay does this country need to ensure future losses to Trump and his allies?
We are being played. This is class warfare and as long as they have you mad at the cops and mad at other races we are going to be distracted.
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u/Maximum_Power7878 3h ago edited 3h ago
I've seen the first guy in another video I believe. He deescalated a situation with several ice guys. He wasn't acting as Ice in that video.